Diptera.info :: Identification queries :: Diptera (adults)
 Euleia heraclei (Tephritidae)
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 30-08-2007 18:40
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 Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
I believe this fly is a Tephritid. Which one? Thank you location: Barcelos, Portugal date: 2007/08/30  
Edited by Rui Andrade on 12-11-2007 18:52 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 30-08-2007 18:41
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Euleia heraclei of summer??  or something similar.  it is Tephritidae, by sure! John Smit will say more! espero que tenhas apanhado uma destas para mim.  |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 30-08-2007 18:50
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Thank you Jorge Est? algures no meu quarto, ? solta  ! |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 30-08-2007 18:54
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Rui Andrade wrote: Thank you Jorge Est? algures no meu quarto, ? solta ! I know you will do what I ask! Lucky you!! Indoors!!  Do you have a tree indoors? lol |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 30-08-2007 18:55
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
I forgot to say! this is a female. We can see the oviscape. |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 30-08-2007 19:07
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
I know you will do what I ask! Lucky you!! Indoors!! Do you have a tree indoors? lolThe fly escaped from me when I was trying to photograph it, but I already caught it. The fly is dying but I can send it to you (if it arrives dead will it serve your purpose?). |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 30-08-2007 19:31
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
yep. Thank you. I have the winter species. It would be nice to compare both! |
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| John Smit |
Posted on 31-08-2007 09:54
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 Member Location: Utrecht Posts: 565 Joined: 05.10.04 |
Hi Jorge, Apart from the colouration of the body and of the wingpattern, there is no difference between both forms. And you can actually also find the dark form in summer. John |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 31-08-2007 14:11
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
I'm not understanding very well. There is a winter form and a summer form, of the same species or different species? And how to differentiate both forms? |
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| John Smit |
Posted on 02-09-2007 13:25
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Member Location: Utrecht Posts: 565 Joined: 05.10.04 |
Hi Rui, It's quite simple, there is one species (Euleia heraclei) that is normally black of bodycolour, and a quite dark wingpattern. But in summer you'll often find the same species but looking like this photo above. It's the same species, but one specimen can be yellow-brown, while the other can be black. It's the same you have with several bumblebee mimics within the syrphids, Merodon equestris for instance has something like seven different colourpatters among the bodyhairs, same species only looking different, e.g. colourforms. John |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 02-09-2007 23:35
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3123 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Thank you for the explanation, John. |
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