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 Muscidae from 25.10.17: Mydaea? --> confirmed
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 27-10-2017 19:16
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13698 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, a 9 mm female from the light in our garden (northwest Germany). More and larger pics here: https://insektenf...adID=89046 Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [165.9Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 27-10-2017 21:03 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 27-10-2017 19:16
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13698 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #2
Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [162.64Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 27-10-2017 19:17
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13698 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #3
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 27-10-2017 19:17
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13698 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Poc #4
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 27-10-2017 19:37
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Yes, it is a female Mydaea.
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 27-10-2017 21:03
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13698 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Stephane Lebrun wrote: Yes, it is a female Mydaea. Thanks, Stéphane! And I assume, there is no way to narrow that down (somewhere in affinis, setifemur, urbana, humeralis?)? Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 28-10-2017 21:23
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
setifemur and humeralis have a yellow scutellum. I need to see the katepisternal for other species.
Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 28-10-2017 21:23 Stephane. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 28-10-2017 22:03
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13698 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello Stéphane, Stephane Lebrun wrote: setifemur and humeralis have a yellow scutellum. I need to see the katepisternal for other species. thanks! I assume 'kapisternal' is some kind of bristle. Google gives exactly 2 hits for that term  , one in Czech and one from bugguide.net.
Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 28-10-2017 23:39
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 Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
here is my definition utilizing my etymological knowledge (I study much more than nature): a lower (kat- [down] + episternum) lateral division of the thorax as opposed to the proximate upper (an-) episternal division of the thorax katepisternum (adjective=katepisternal, id est, katepisternal seta[-e]) sternopleuron (adjective=sternopleural, id est, sternopleural seta[-e]) the term sternopleuron is used in most German text instead. https://diptera.info/infusions/terms/terms.php?op=view&id=309 unfortunately, the katepisternum is not viewable in any of your additional photos. https://insektenfotos.de/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=89046 a lateral view is necessary and sometimes from below. John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 29-10-2017 19:05
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13698 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello John and Nini, thanks a lot for your explanations! Very appreciated. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 29-10-2017 21:11
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
I think now that you were pointing out a typo by Stephane, yes? I wondered why you would surround the term in quotes. I was too tired to log back in and ask about it. I figure Stephane must have corrected the misspelling. If this was the situation, thenThanks for being a good sport Juergen  I was tired last night. I spent the day examining a Pollenia specimen. My mind was sleeping long before my body
John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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but don't see the image in the post.