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 need a family and genus = Coenosia strigipes
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 03-10-2017 20:27
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 Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Berlin - September - 3.5mm female Anyone know which family and genus please? I thought about Muscidae but it looks odd to me. I cannot find a match. Thank You for your Time and Effort. johnes81 attached the following image:  [60.59Kb] Edited by johnes81 on 03-10-2017 22:07 John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 03-10-2017 20:27
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 03-10-2017 20:28
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 03-10-2017 21:13
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 Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Reminds me a lot of Coenosia. If it is so, I don't recognize the species. But certainly should be Coenosiinae 
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 03-10-2017 21:14 |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 03-10-2017 21:26
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Good evening Piluca, my first impression was Coenosia but I cannot find a match. I figure it is either a rarely photographed Coenosia species or it isn't a Coenosia. I will keep looking in Coenosia genus. Meantime, maybe someone will recognize it. Thanks for your Time Piluca.
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 03-10-2017 21:34
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Wait a minute... do I see interfrontal bristles? If it is so, it cannot be Coenosiinae (confused now). How many dc does it have? 1+3, 2+3-4? I cannot see it well  |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 03-10-2017 21:49
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
This is a female Coenosia strigipes.
Stephane. |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 03-10-2017 21:58
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Hello Piluca, 1+3. I've attached some photos but I see that Sir Stephane replied with a species. Fantastic! Thank You for helping Piluca
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 03-10-2017 21:58
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
No more to say  I should trust gut feeling  The 1+3 was what I wanted to see
Edited by Piluca_Alvarez on 03-10-2017 21:59 |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 03-10-2017 22:02
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
Thank You very much Stephane. I have never examined a Coenosia before. I have to laugh because I was looking at C. strigipes but it didn't look exactly the same to my untrained eye. I am happy to know that you recognize it. I want learn more about these flies. I've seen them many times but I've never examined them. I found this one in my living room. This is my first Coenosia under the microscope... I wish for all a Pleasant Night
John and Nini. Naturalists not experts. |
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| johnes81 |
Posted on 03-10-2017 22:05
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Member Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 1978 Joined: 15.10.16 |
yes, Piluca, you should trust your opinion. You are more knowledgeable than I am about many families. I have no science to my conjecture of Coenosia. Honestly, I just thought that it reminded me of a miniature Helina. Thus, I started searching in Muscidae and figured it should be a Coenosia. You, on the other hand, have a scientific method. You are much more knowledgeable. I have alot to learn but I cannot learn everything in one night. Thank you for helping Piluca
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 03-10-2017 22:12
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
John, nobody can learn all in one night. Take it easy and enjoy your learning Much fun in Diptera is waiting for you About my knowledge in Muscidae, my teacher was... Stephane Lebrun Loads of reading literature and many questions asked to my teacher. But as you can see, he is still ages head of me |
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