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Muscidae? from Romania
cosmln
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Posted on 22-08-2007 14:28
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Hi,

like i have told you in my last post i was for couple of days in the field in the Retezat National Park. and made some picture of flies. and...

this small tachinid (around 4-5mm) was very abundent (i have seen hundred) on large leaves of different plants (Rumex, Arctium, Petasites). one observation (i think not seen in the photos) is that the wings are at least in the basal half smoky (maybe this helps).

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second one (a bad lateral one)
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First, let's fix the family.

It doesn't look like a Tachinid, and moreover, Tachinidae are hardly ever really numerous.

Sounds like Muscidae
... ?

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Zeegers wrote:
First, let's fix the family.

It doesn't look like a Tachinid, and moreover, Tachinidae are hardly ever really numerous.

Sounds like Muscidae
... ?

Theo


Smile
k, i will put muscidae?
sorry for that

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is possible to be Hebecnema vespertina ???
or another Hebecnema ??
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Not Hebecnema (H. is less robust fly with black shining body).
It is Anthomyiidae, sorry I can't say more.
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I contradict everyone and propose a new name (again, sigh): smallish, rather robust, clearly darkened wings sounds like a male Spilogina (Muscidae).
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Kahis wrote:
I contradict everyone and propose a new name (again, sigh): smallish, rather robust, clearly darkened wings sounds like a male Spilogina (Muscidae).


i will be glad if some more opinions can come.
never thinked this will be so hard... the fly was so common.
also maybe on my last tachinid can be made some ...

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Spilogona looks good to me Wink
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I also have to aggree with Kahis's opinion
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Nikita Vikhrev wrote:
I also have to aggree with Kahis's opinion


just trowing one eye to FaunaEU. just 77 species of Spilogona are listed there.
so... i think the genus is all that can be squeezed Smile from here.

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