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 Muscidae? from Romania
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| cosmln |
Posted on 22-08-2007 15:28
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 Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Hi, like i have told you in my last post i was for couple of days in the field in the Retezat National Park. and made some picture of flies. and... this small tachinid (around 4-5mm) was very abundent (i have seen hundred) on large leaves of different plants (Rumex, Arctium, Petasites). one observation (i think not seen in the photos) is that the wings are at least in the basal half smoky (maybe this helps). thanks in advance, cosmln cosmln attached the following image:  [95.1Kb] Edited by cosmln on 22-08-2007 15:34 Cosmin-Ovidiu Manci biology & photography ********************** http://cosmln.nature4stock.com - cosmln's place http://dragonfly.nature4stock.com - Dragonflies of Romania http://insects.nature4stock.com - just insects http://mybiosis.org/nature/portal.php?pagename=firstpage - a romanian flora & fauna database and not only ********************** DSLR Collecting Saves Lives! ********************** " Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find that money can not be eaten. " an old indian saying |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 22-08-2007 15:30
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
second one (a bad lateral one)
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| cosmln |
Posted on 22-08-2007 15:31
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
last one
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 22-08-2007 15:32
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18604 Joined: 21.07.04 |
First, let's fix the family. It doesn't look like a Tachinid, and moreover, Tachinidae are hardly ever really numerous. Sounds like Muscidae ... ? Theo |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 22-08-2007 15:33
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Zeegers wrote: First, let's fix the family. It doesn't look like a Tachinid, and moreover, Tachinidae are hardly ever really numerous. Sounds like Muscidae ... ? Theo  k, i will put muscidae? sorry for that cosmln |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 22-08-2007 15:45
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
is possible to be Hebecnema vespertina ??? or another Hebecnema ?? Edited by cosmln on 22-08-2007 15:48 |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 22-08-2007 18:57
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9233 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Not Hebecnema (H. is less robust fly with black shining body). It is Anthomyiidae, sorry I can't say more. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 22-08-2007 19:21
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
I contradict everyone and propose a new name (again, sigh): smallish, rather robust, clearly darkened wings sounds like a male Spilogina (Muscidae).
Kahis |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 22-08-2007 21:42
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Kahis wrote: I contradict everyone and propose a new name (again, sigh): smallish, rather robust, clearly darkened wings sounds like a male Spilogina (Muscidae). i will be glad if some more opinions can come. never thinked this will be so hard... the fly was so common. also maybe on my last tachinid can be made some ... thanks, cosmln Edited by cosmln on 22-08-2007 21:45 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 22-08-2007 21:48
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7196 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Spilogona looks good to me 
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 22-08-2007 21:52
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9233 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I also have to aggree with Kahis's opinion
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| cosmln |
Posted on 22-08-2007 22:28
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Member Location: Romania Posts: 956 Joined: 18.03.07 |
Nikita Vikhrev wrote: I also have to aggree with Kahis's opinion just trowing one eye to FaunaEU. just 77 species of Spilogona are listed there. so... i think the genus is all that can be squeezed from here.thank to all, cosmln |
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