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Tipula (female)--> Tipula (Mediotipula) sarajevensis (female)
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Small sized Tipula 12.45 mm wing length, 9.5 mm body length, attracted to light, 2016, september the 3rd (Iberia: Catalonia: Girona: Beuda: 400 masl).

* Following the key at Faune de France (Pierre, 1926)
- Ailes presque unicolores, noirâtres, grises, jaunâtres ou roussâtres; bord antérieur parfois un peu plus foncé.
- Ptérostigma plus ou moins visible, précédé ou non d'une lunule blanche assez développée, souvent réduite à une petite tache pâle à peine distincte.
- RI et R2 anormales.
- R2 incomplète n'allant PqS jusqu'au bord de l'aile.

* Following Sttubbs and Kramer (2016)
- Middle flagellar segments with one or more median bristles.
- Wing with R2 short or missing. Definitely not meeting costa, even if the break is short.
- Pleura yellowish, at most with light grey patches.

Could this be Tipula (Mediotipula)?
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head detail

A1=Scape
A2= Pedicel
A3= F1
A3= F2
A3= F3

A1 longer than F1, F2 or F3
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wing detail: R2 vein (black) interrumpted to costa -~= Mediotipula
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In all the drawings of ovipositors by Theowald 1978, the cerci is driven forewards, so it's not worth comparing cerci/valval lengths but reading the text instead:

If we easily assume Mediotipula subgenus, then:

Thorax matt with four more or less distinct stripes
Cerci equidistant over a greater part of its length and with a clearly rounded tip.
The first three flagellar members each clearly shorter than the first antenna member.
Hypovalve base not thickened
Praescutum yellowish brown frosted with brown longitudinal stripes:

drives to
Tipula (Mediotipula) siebkei

Wing length 12.45 mm and fly period vii-ix is also concordant.
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