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 Is this Gonia capitata?
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| wouter |
Posted on 30-09-2005 13:38
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Recently we saw this fly near a dune area in the Netherlands: Lentevreugd Wassenaar. Can you help me identifying it? You can find the picture here: http://www.waarne...p?id=18228 |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 30-09-2005 15:52
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Looks more like a Tachina. Gonia are at least here strictly vernal species. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 30-09-2005 15:57
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Well, Gonia capitata is listed in Peter Tschorsnig's central european key as having records into 'early September', so it is a possibility. The head is difficult to see but the more I look at it, the more it looks like the frons is wide enough for Gonia, so ... without saying it *is* ... I'd say it is possible  |
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| wouter |
Posted on 30-09-2005 16:06
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Looks more like a Tachina. Gonia are at least here strictly vernal species. Mark van Veen a dutch entomologist thought it might be a Gonia capitata, but he also was very surprised about the date. That?s why I posted it here to find out wheter it could be some other similar species. |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 30-09-2005 19:16
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To complicate matters: Tschorsnig also mentions in the key that there is yellowish pile on head and abdomen, but in the picture it appears to be rather whitish and that would lead to other species in the key.
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 30-09-2005 21:00
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18546 Joined: 21.07.04 |
It is not Gonia capitata, for one 'reason' because it is not dutch ! Paul had a good suggestion, it is in the Tachininae Tachinini. Though it cannot be seen for sure from this picture, given the locality I have no doubt that it actually is Peleteria rubescens (or whatever the modern name is of our Peleteria, = nigricornis). It has some large bristles on the face. It is quite common in the dune area, but otherwise rare. Theo Zeegers |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 30-09-2005 21:11
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18546 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Sorry, it was Kahis who get the ID on the right track Theo |
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| wouter |
Posted on 01-10-2005 08:10
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Though it cannot be seen for sure from this picture, given the locality I have no doubt that it actually is Peleteria rubescens (or whatever the modern name is of our Peleteria, = nigricornis). It has some large bristles on the face. It is quite common in the dune area, but otherwise rare. It is a bit unclear to me now. Is it Peleteria rubescens, is it Peleteria nigricornis or is it Nigricornis rubescens? I have another picture from the front. I could ask my friend who took the pictures for me if we could upload these as well. Are there anywhere on the internet pictures of this Peleteria?? |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 01-10-2005 08:29
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Sorry for the confusion. It is (at least, that is my guess) Peleteria rubescens, which has been known as P. nigricornis in the older literature. Theo |
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but don't see the image in the post.