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Atylotus?
Smoggycb
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Posted on 14-07-2007 16:40
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Netted yesterday in my garden - on shingle with saltmarsh and ex-arable land with saline pits.
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Zeegers
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Posted on 14-07-2007 16:55
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It's an Atylotus alright. Congratulations.

Can we get a dorsal view in due time ?
As you already had guessed, this is a candidate for latistriatus

Theo Zeegers
 
Smoggycb
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Posted on 15-07-2007 20:39
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Here's a dorsal view. Sorry about the quality of the image
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Here's the image
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Posted on 16-07-2007 15:57
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It looks like latistriatus but the light is quite tricky, so I can't be really sure.

Theo
 
Smoggycb
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Posted on 17-07-2007 08:55
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Thanks a lot Theo. Here's another dorsal view with different lighting. As this is something of a rarity here, it might be an idea to get someone to look at the specimen. Could you suggest someone who might be willing to do so?
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Posted on 17-07-2007 18:25
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Me. Send me an PM.
Or if you don't want the specimen to leave the UK, either Alan Stubbs or Stuart Ball.

Theo
 
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Posted on 28-07-2007 15:46
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My reservations proved justified:
I just got the specimen and it is a female A. rusticus.
Apparently even more special in the UK !

Theo Zeegers
 
Zeegers
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Posted on 28-07-2007 15:57
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I had a look at the map and just discovered that the locality is quite close to Dungeness. Most other records are from Susses as well.
This opens the possibility that most, if not all, rusticus in the UK are vagrant from the continent. There is a specimen of Therioplectes gigas from the other side, near Boulogne, that underlines this possibility.
Of course, it's no proof.

Theo
 
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