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Achanthiptera rohrelliformis, could it be ?
Stephane Lebrun
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Posted on 23-06-2007 22:22
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Hello,
I need your opinion for this fly.
At first glance, it looks like Thricops diaphanus, but I'm not convinced at all, odd chaetotaxy and there is a black midstripe on anterior part of thorax.
So I wondered if it couldn't be Achantiptera rohrelliformis. That would be too much !
I don't know and I have never seen this fly, and I dream of seeing it.
Or, last possibilty, it's only an Anthomyid ?

Thanks for your help.

Location : near Paris, France.
Date : June, 13 2007
Size : ~10 mm

Edit: title changed.

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Nikita Vikhrev
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I wish to be of any help, but alas, I've never seen Achantiptera too...
Thricops diaphanus has 4 post dc - your fly 3, Thricops diaphanus female has much broader frontal vita, male - narrower.
Some Pegomya? Dieu sait! But jizz, my test, is not Anthomyiid at all.
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Stephane Lebrun
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Hi Nikita,
you're helping me, because you confirm my reasoning.
Unfortunately and of course, we can't see whether R1 is setulose on distal part or not from this photo. The photo's not mine, and the owner did'nt collect the fly.
I'm going to edit the title to attract Kahis attention. Wink

Thanks again Nikita. Smile

St?phane.
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Well, it matches the description of a female Achanthiptera in Gregor et al - but it is worth pointing out the difficulties identifying muscids from photos. In this specimen the right mid tibia clearly has two posterodorsal bristles, but they are missing from the left side.
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Stephane Lebrun
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The frons looks quite like the fig. 10b of this book. If it is not an Anthomyidae, it has a good chance to be that species.
I hope the person will find it again, very interesting.
Thanks for your help.

Greetings.
Stephane.
 
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Stephane Lebrun wrote:
I'm going to edit the title to attract Kahis attention. Wink


Well done, here I am Wink

And I bring good news: after comparison with collected specimens, I can declare that this fly is indeed a female of A. rohrelliformis.

The central black stripe on thorax with the sorrounding pale pollinosity should work as a field character!
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Well, I'm very happy to heard this ! SmileSmile
Many thanks Jere.Smile
Would you want me to put the picture in the gallery ?
Stephane.
 
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All fly species not in gallery should be submitted Cool
 
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