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Achanthiptera rohrelliformis, could it be ?
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Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 23-06-2007 22:22
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Hello, I need your opinion for this fly. At first glance, it looks like Thricops diaphanus, but I'm not convinced at all, odd chaetotaxy and there is a black midstripe on anterior part of thorax. So I wondered if it couldn't be Achantiptera rohrelliformis. That would be too much ! I don't know and I have never seen this fly, and I dream of seeing it. Or, last possibilty, it's only an Anthomyid ? Thanks for your help. Location : near Paris, France. Date : June, 13 2007 Size : ~10 mm Edit: title changed. Only one photograph : Stephane Lebrun attached the following image: [104.94Kb] Edited by Stephane Lebrun on 24-06-2007 10:24 Stephane. |
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Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 24-06-2007 08:49
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9347 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I wish to be of any help, but alas, I've never seen Achantiptera too... Thricops diaphanus has 4 post dc - your fly 3, Thricops diaphanus female has much broader frontal vita, male - narrower. Some Pegomya? Dieu sait! But jizz, my test, is not Anthomyiid at all. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 24-06-2007 10:23
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Hi Nikita, you're helping me, because you confirm my reasoning. Unfortunately and of course, we can't see whether R1 is setulose on distal part or not from this photo. The photo's not mine, and the owner did'nt collect the fly. I'm going to edit the title to attract Kahis attention. Thanks again Nikita. St?phane. Stephane. |
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Tony Irwin |
Posted on 24-06-2007 11:48
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7236 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Well, it matches the description of a female Achanthiptera in Gregor et al - but it is worth pointing out the difficulties identifying muscids from photos. In this specimen the right mid tibia clearly has two posterodorsal bristles, but they are missing from the left side.
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 24-06-2007 19:42
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
The frons looks quite like the fig. 10b of this book. If it is not an Anthomyidae, it has a good chance to be that species. I hope the person will find it again, very interesting. Thanks for your help. Greetings. Stephane. |
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Kahis |
Posted on 24-06-2007 20:17
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Stephane Lebrun wrote: I'm going to edit the title to attract Kahis attention. Well done, here I am And I bring good news: after comparison with collected specimens, I can declare that this fly is indeed a female of A. rohrelliformis. The central black stripe on thorax with the sorrounding pale pollinosity should work as a field character! Kahis |
Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 24-06-2007 20:36
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Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Well, I'm very happy to heard this ! Many thanks Jere. Would you want me to put the picture in the gallery ? Stephane. |
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crex |
Posted on 24-06-2007 20:52
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
All fly species not in gallery should be submitted |
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