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Tachinidae: Alophasia?????
Isidro
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Posted on 19-06-2007 08:23
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Last Satudray at Sabi?anigo, Aragon, Spain (Pre-Pyrenees), in flowers of Angelica archangelica, in open shrubland dominated by Ligustrum vulgare, Genista scorpius and Linum narbonense, near a train line. The fly sizes 8-9 mm long.

img38.picoodle.com/img/img38/8/6/19/f_pequeo3m_b11df09.jpg
img517.imageshack.us/img517/5306/alophasia2eu8.jpg

can be identified?
Thanks. Wink
 
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Firstly, the top one is an asilid and the bottom one a phasiine tachinid - so we have 2 totally different families represented in these photos. Not sure about the bottom fly because I can't see the wing venation clearly enough but I would guess it is a female Ectophasia (maybe leucoptera?) - just a guess, going by the wing and body colour.
 
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Posted on 19-06-2007 10:13
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Ooooh, I mistaked with the picture!!!!!

The asilid is one that I've posted in the Asilidae Forum (but anybody knows it).

Now I will put the picture that I wanted to put here.
 
Isidro
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Here is it.

Sorry by the mistake Pfft

img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/8/6/19/f_Alophasia1m_0624d4d.jpg
 
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Hmm, that strange way vein-m meets the wing margin and bends back reminds me of something that Theo identified a few weeks ago - not Ectophasia. That time he said:
It's a male of Elomyia lateralis. Look in the first pic what happens with the apical crosvein, when approaching the wing margin: it turns back !
(I admit, difficult to see if you haven't seen it before)


See: http://www.dipter...&pid=30080
Edited by ChrisR on 19-06-2007 10:53
 
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Isidro
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The few pictures of Elomyia lateralis that I've found in the net, are different in coloration and even in the form.

?Could be another genus?

We wait for Theo, then...
 
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I'd say that wing venation will be the same across all species within a genus - but it might be a different species or a different sex to the photos you saw Smile
 
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Posted on 20-06-2007 14:24
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Oh, I don't saw the link and neither the last answer Shock

Thenk you very, very much, it's identical!!! I let it as (very probable) Elomyia lateralis.
 
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