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Tachinidae: Alophasia?????
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Isidro |
Posted on 19-06-2007 08:23
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Last Satudray at Sabi?anigo, Aragon, Spain (Pre-Pyrenees), in flowers of Angelica archangelica, in open shrubland dominated by Ligustrum vulgare, Genista scorpius and Linum narbonense, near a train line. The fly sizes 8-9 mm long. can be identified? Thanks. |
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ChrisR |
Posted on 19-06-2007 08:36
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Firstly, the top one is an asilid and the bottom one a phasiine tachinid - so we have 2 totally different families represented in these photos. Not sure about the bottom fly because I can't see the wing venation clearly enough but I would guess it is a female Ectophasia (maybe leucoptera?) - just a guess, going by the wing and body colour. |
Isidro |
Posted on 19-06-2007 10:13
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Ooooh, I mistaked with the picture!!!!! The asilid is one that I've posted in the Asilidae Forum (but anybody knows it). Now I will put the picture that I wanted to put here. |
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Isidro |
Posted on 19-06-2007 10:14
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Here is it. Sorry by the mistake |
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ChrisR |
Posted on 19-06-2007 10:51
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Hmm, that strange way vein-m meets the wing margin and bends back reminds me of something that Theo identified a few weeks ago - not Ectophasia. That time he said: It's a male of Elomyia lateralis. Look in the first pic what happens with the apical crosvein, when approaching the wing margin: it turns back ! (I admit, difficult to see if you haven't seen it before) See: http://www.dipter...&pid=30080 Edited by ChrisR on 19-06-2007 10:53 |
Isidro |
Posted on 19-06-2007 13:12
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
The few pictures of Elomyia lateralis that I've found in the net, are different in coloration and even in the form. ?Could be another genus? We wait for Theo, then... |
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ChrisR |
Posted on 19-06-2007 15:22
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
I'd say that wing venation will be the same across all species within a genus - but it might be a different species or a different sex to the photos you saw |
Isidro |
Posted on 20-06-2007 14:24
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Member Location: Zaragoza, Spain Posts: 2070 Joined: 26.04.07 |
Oh, I don't saw the link and neither the last answer Thenk you very, very much, it's identical!!! I let it as (very probable) Elomyia lateralis. |
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