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 hoverfly look-alike
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| DJHiker |
Posted on 09-09-2015 22:38
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Member Location: Utrecht, NL Posts: 423 Joined: 24.10.13 |
At first I thought this was a Syrphidae (female) species, but when I looked closer at the wing pattern it didn’t look very much like that of a hover fly. Any suggestions? Location: Plitvicki Ljeskovac, inland Croatia. Alt. approx.. 650m Best regards, David DJHiker attached the following image:  [181.69Kb] |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 09-09-2015 22:42
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13670 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Bombyliidae.
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 10-09-2015 10:40
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19244 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Villa sp.
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| DJHiker |
Posted on 10-09-2015 21:21
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Member Location: Utrecht, NL Posts: 423 Joined: 24.10.13 |
According to Fauna Europaea, the two Villa species present in Croatia are V. cingulata and V. hottentotta. When I look at internet images of the females of these two species -to me- they both qualify. Does my photo show enough detail to allow a specific id? Regards, David |
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| DJHiker |
Posted on 10-09-2015 21:37
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Member Location: Utrecht, NL Posts: 423 Joined: 24.10.13 |
P.S. On the Aramel site http://aramel.fre...#39;.shtml I found a specimen that really looks identical to the one I observed. Unfortunately only identified as Villa sp.  So I am afraid that this will be the fate of mine as well…. |
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| Sundew |
Posted on 10-09-2015 22:01
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 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3890 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Villa is extremely tricky, as is quickly learned when one reads the older threads (use the "Forum Search" function extensively, it is VERY informative!). Our Bombyliidae expert David Gibbs has not been active in the forum for more than one year, so I can only cite him: "not safe to name most Villa from Mediterranean without a series of specimens in good condition and even then it is often difficult to arrive at a decision" "one thing I can say for certain, any photo of this group of Villa which has not been collected, and in the case of males dissected, is very unlikely to be reliably named. Even specimens are very difficult to name and this will remain the case until the whole genus is revised" So your nice fly will indeed remain Villa spec. BTW, the Aramel website gives a lot of information, but unfortunately it is rich in errors. Our experts convinced me that there are more reliable ones (e. g. this one  .)Regards, Sundew |
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| DJHiker |
Posted on 11-09-2015 11:53
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Member Location: Utrecht, NL Posts: 423 Joined: 24.10.13 |
Thank you all for the clarifications. Regards, David |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 11-09-2015 16:21
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18538 Joined: 21.07.04 |
All true, and whatever it is, it is not hottentotta Theo |
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