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| Lawrie B |
Posted on 10-06-2007 02:25
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I only got the one shot of this fly. It was on a Eucalyptus leaf near a wetlands area in Victoria Australia. Any help in the ID would be appreciated.  |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 10-06-2007 08:00
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9460 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Hi Lawrie. 1. As a first step you have to move fly from Syrphidae forum to Diptera forum - it isn't Syrphidae and post may be overlooked. 2. My test, probable answer is female of Dolichopodidae, Sciapodinae. To get confirmation (or not) of this opinion, I advise you to change post name to "Dolichopodidae?" Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 10-06-2007 10:44
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Hmm, it doesn't really look doli-like, but I agree that superfamily Empidoidea is right.
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| Andre |
Posted on 10-06-2007 11:59
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
I wouldn't rule out Athericidae or Chrysopilus (Rhagionidae)... can't see the wingvenation though...  |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 10-06-2007 20:46
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5551 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Hybotidae?
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 10-06-2007 21:37
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
The whole build shouts HYBOTIDAE but I am unfamiliar with the Australian fauna. Wait till Adrian shows up and throws in a name.
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| Lawrie B |
Posted on 05-07-2007 07:27
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Thanks for the suggestions on the ID but I have still drawn a blaNK ON THIS ONE |
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| Igor Grichanov |
Posted on 05-07-2007 21:19
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 Member Location: St.Petersburg, Russia Posts: 1775 Joined: 17.08.06 |
THE only specialist who knows Empidoidea of Ausralia is Daniel Bickel.
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| Adrian |
Posted on 08-07-2007 13:03
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Member Location: Posts: 69 Joined: 05.01.07 |
I think that Dolichopodidae is most likelt for this one. Without a view of the wing veins its a bit difficult to be sure but its general stance and 'jiz' suggests its a Doli rather than another empidoid. There is just a small chance that it could be a hybotid as there are several ocydromiine genera in the Austropeza / Oropezella area which look a bit like this. If you see it again, get another photo please cheers Adrian |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 08-07-2007 13:13
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
I still disagree with Dolichopodidae (but I'm not familiar with the australian fauna at all!). My first gues s would be Empididae/near Hemerodromiinae 
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| Adrian |
Posted on 09-07-2007 06:10
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It would not be a very typical Hemerodromiinae:- the arching of the thorax is not strong enough, even for Chelipodini and more tellingly, the front 2 pairs of legs are too close together. I have seen some of the Australian Hemerodromiinae which seem to be similar to those of New Zealand, with which I am more familiar. Take a look at a NZ species in the gallery at http://www.diptera.info/photogallery.php?photo_id=1100 and look at thoracic arching and spacing of the legs. I have to admit that the antennae do look hemerodromiine though. Without a better view it will remain indet methinks:- unless Dan knows it cheers Adrian |
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| Adrian |
Posted on 12-07-2007 08:52
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I sent the photo to Dan Bickel who knows the Australian doli's very well. He doesn't think its a doli and suggests it might be an ocydromiine empid so possibly my earlier thought that there was some small chance of it being in the Austropeza / Oropezella was right after all. Embarassing really as I desribed Austropeza in the first place! cheers Adrian |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 12-07-2007 11:34
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19403 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Paul Beuk wrote: The whole build shouts HYBOTIDAE but I am unfamiliar with the Australian fauna. Wait till Adrian shows up and throws in a name. I rest my case... 
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