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 Dolichopodidae
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 04-09-2005 16:48
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9561 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Moscow region, 02 sept, running on the surface of pond water, 4mm. May be possible to say the Genus?   Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 04-09-2005 17:00
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Hi! Although these flies behave like many like Dolies and to a degrees also look like them, they belong to genus Ephydra (Ephydridae) or possibly one of the closely related genera. |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 04-09-2005 17:11
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9561 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Thank you! So both Dolichopodidae and Ephydridae may act as Gerridae-fly! Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 10-11-2005 17:58
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9561 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Identified by Marina Krivosheina as Coenia palustris. You agree or not, Jere? Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Kahis |
Posted on 10-11-2005 20:33
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Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 1999 Joined: 02.09.04 |
Hi. I have to disagree! Coenosia should have three postsutural dc setae (+ one presutural); your photo clearly shows 1+4 dc. Coenia palustris is a very common species and I have plenty of reference material in my own collection. The habitus is very close, but C. palustris has brown dusting on thorax & a darkened haltere. Hmm hmm feels weird going against the word of a well-known group specialist. I've met her a few years ago in Helsinki and she kindly checked some of my own specimens, including some C. palustris. Edited by Kahis on 10-11-2005 20:34 Kahis |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 10-11-2005 21:14
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9561 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Than, next week I ask her once more and put your reasons. Identification by photo is a very special kind of sport and you are master of this sport. May be (even probably) she is not. Anyway we'll find right answer (or proove that it exist several possible answers). Thank you Jere. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 18-11-2005 11:04
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9561 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Jere, fortunely everything is clear. In Moscow Zoology Musem Krivosheina, Shatalkin and Ozerov ask somebody put all identification for me in one fail, and somebody wrote Coenia palustris instead of correct Setacera sp., which is "one of the closely related to Ephydra genera". Thank you. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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