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 Tachinidae-Kirbya?
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| Sergiy Filatov |
Posted on 03-11-2014 20:11
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Member Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine Posts: 259 Joined: 22.10.10 |
I wonder if it's a Kyrbia unicolor? It seems to me, that the marginal bristles on tergite 4 are missing... size ca. 5mm, glossy black (maybe with slight bronze hue) 08.IV.2012 Ukraine, Kharkiv region, 50°5'25.4"N 36°26'29.6"E edge of the pine forest stand, walking on leaf litter P.S. I hope it's not merely Paykullia maculata 
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| Sergiy Filatov |
Posted on 03-11-2014 20:12
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Member Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine Posts: 259 Joined: 22.10.10 |
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| Sergiy Filatov |
Posted on 03-11-2014 20:15
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Member Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine Posts: 259 Joined: 22.10.10 |
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| Sergiy Filatov |
Posted on 03-11-2014 20:16
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Member Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine Posts: 259 Joined: 22.10.10 |
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| Sergiy Filatov |
Posted on 05-11-2014 10:17
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Member Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine Posts: 259 Joined: 22.10.10 |
No chance? Theo? |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 05-11-2014 19:21
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
It's possible but I can't see enough detail in the photo to rule out other Wagneriini
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Sergiy Filatov |
Posted on 05-11-2014 19:53
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Member Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine Posts: 259 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Hi, Chris. Thanks for your input! What details do you need to see? (I have more images and I could try to make some better photos.) And I'm glad to know that it's not Rhinophoridae 
Edited by Sergiy Filatov on 05-11-2014 19:57 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 05-11-2014 20:00
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18529 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Hi Sergiy I have no doubt this is Kirbya indeed. ON the species, I am less sure. It seems that the petiole is too long for unicolor. Also the length of the costal spine and the marginals on tergite 4 support moerens rather than unicolor. Please note that the abdomen is unicolour as well in the female of K. moerens. Is this female ? And, you might improve the quality of your pics by putting your specimen in a white 'box' of paper and using a white paper screen on the background. Theo |
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| Sergiy Filatov |
Posted on 05-11-2014 20:32
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Member Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine Posts: 259 Joined: 22.10.10 |
Hi, Theo Well, it looks like it's a female (the frons is pretty broad). I've tried to identify it with Tschorsnig's keys for Tachinidae of Central Europe (in Chris' translation) and I've opted for unicolor because I can't see any strong bristles on the abdomen at all. Tomorrow I'll try to make better shots (thanks for your advice). By the way, if you interested, I can find the way to send the specimens to you (I have 2). Sergiy Filatov attached the following image:  [185.78Kb] |
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| Sergiy Filatov |
Posted on 06-11-2014 11:00
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Member Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine Posts: 259 Joined: 22.10.10 |
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| Sergiy Filatov |
Posted on 06-11-2014 11:02
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Member Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine Posts: 259 Joined: 22.10.10 |
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| Sergiy Filatov |
Posted on 06-11-2014 11:04
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Member Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine Posts: 259 Joined: 22.10.10 |
So, Kirbya moerens? Is there only two species in Europe? |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 06-11-2014 20:09
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18529 Joined: 21.07.04 |
A specimenof K. unicolor would be grately appreciated and I have moerens for comparison. I can only be sure if I can study the specimen (in this case): unicolor is rare and I have never seen it. I will send you a PM (check your PM mail) Theo |
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