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another Choerades - difficult again...
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Hi,
Today I saw some Choerades flies on the eastern outskirts of Berlin. I suppose I found male and female. They seem to differ from my Ch. fimbriata in http://diptera.in...ost_263225 in that the facial hairs are white and the scutellar bristles dark. The anepisternum is greyish-tomentose, and I do not see yellow hairs. The first antennal segment is rather long. The key leads to Ch. femorata, but can the tergites be so golden-haired? Even in the male there is a golden gleam below the wings viewed from above. So I need an expert's opinion - thanks for any help!
Sundew

This is the female, eating a Mirid bug, probably Megaloceroea recticornis. Unfortunately I got only this view.
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This should be its male (or not?).
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I think both belong to that C marginata/femorata/ dioctriaeformis complex
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Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

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Many thanks, Reinoud - obviously it is difficult to discriminate between these species basing on a photo.
 
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