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| blaauw7 |
Posted on 23-05-2014 11:30
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 Member Location: Wageningen, Netherlands Posts: 2500 Joined: 22.09.07 |
Found today on Fraxinus leaves, River Rhine area, Netherlands. Psilidae? Gr Dick blaauw7 attached the following image:  [115.16Kb] |
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| nielsyese |
Posted on 24-05-2014 21:09
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 Member Location: Yerseke, NL Posts: 2331 Joined: 13.02.09 |
Maybe Chamaepsila pallida.
Best wishes, Niels-Jan Dek |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 27-05-2014 10:44
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19225 Joined: 11.05.04 |
According to a recent key I saw, pallida should have yellow tergites. This then is another species. Dick, if you kept the specimen, please, send it to me so I can check for the correct name for this species.
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| blaauw7 |
Posted on 30-05-2014 18:54
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Member Location: Wageningen, Netherlands Posts: 2500 Joined: 22.09.07 |
I will send it to you Paul. Gr Dick |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 05-06-2014 10:33
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19225 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Great
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| Jocelyn Claude |
Posted on 10-10-2022 10:20
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Member Location: Posts: 45 Joined: 29.08.22 |
Hello to all, In fact it is not possible that it is Cha. pallida because of the black abdominal tergites (yellow for pallida). It is rather Cha. andreji. Jocelyn Edited by Jocelyn Claude on 10-10-2022 10:20 |
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 10-10-2022 11:49
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 Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1861 Joined: 23.06.15 |
A taxonomic question: In GBIF (= Systema Dipterorum) it is genus Psila, in fauna-eu as well as here in the forum it is Chamaepsila pallida. Is there a current widely accepted agreement, also which species are remaining in genus Psila? Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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| Jocelyn Claude |
Posted on 10-10-2022 13:32
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Member Location: Posts: 45 Joined: 29.08.22 |
Yes, there is a big problem with the taxonomy of this family at the European level: GBIF and Fauna europaea are absolutely not updated and do not include at all the latest publications on this subject. It is the same problem for taxa to be added in Inaturalist nowadays, they have to be systematically reclassified as Chamaepsila and not as Psila, it is very annoying! The taxonomy of this family must follow Shatalkin & Mertz, 2010 (The Psilidae (Diptera, Acalyptrata) of Switzerland, with description of two new species from Central Europe. Revue Suisse de Zoologie, 117 (4), 771–800) and Shatalkin, 2021 (in Kirk-Spriggs, A.H. & Sinclair, B.J. (eds). 2021. Manual of Afrotropical Diptera. Volume 3. Brachycera—Cyclorrhapha, excluding Calyptratae. Suricata 8. South African National Biodiversity Institute, Pretoria; pp. 1545–1556.) Edited by Jocelyn Claude on 10-10-2022 13:34 |
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| Carnifex |
Posted on 10-10-2022 21:11
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Member Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1861 Joined: 23.06.15 |
Actually, just after I wrote this question, I was forwarded towards Mertz's publication and subsequently switched the genera within the iNat taxonomy. Please flag any further taxa that should not be in Psila anymore, and I will have a look at it
Cheers, Lorin Font Color All requests are from the urban area of Vienna, if not otherwise stated. My Diptera observations (and other living forms) can be found here, and corrections or comments over there would also be appreciated. |
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but don't see the image in the post.
