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 Lonchaeidae for ID, C Spain --> Silba adipata
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 14-11-2013 21:34
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 Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Found in mixed woodland by a river in the outskirts of Madrid, 12.11.2013. Reminds me of Lonchaeidae, but could belong to many other families. This is just too much for me  I need help. Thanks in advance!! 
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 14-11-2013 21:35
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Anaother view.
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 14-11-2013 21:35
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Another one.
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 14-11-2013 21:36
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
And the last one.
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 15-11-2013 00:56
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7306 Joined: 19.11.04 |
I'd agree with Lonchaeidae. Change the title of this post, and hopefully Iain MacGowan will pick it up and suggest a name.
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 15-11-2013 09:20
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Thanks, Tony!!!   |
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| Iain MacGowan |
Posted on 16-11-2013 22:23
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 Member Location: Perth, Scotland Posts: 459 Joined: 25.11.04 |
Hi there its definitely Lonchaeidae, my best bet is genus Lonchaea as the arista seems to be bare but its difficult to tell from the photos hope this helps Iain
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 16-11-2013 22:35
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Thanks sooo much for your reply, Ian!! Yes, it helps a lot because I had no idea the arista was important and didn't pay attetion to it when selecting pictures  I have been checking pictures and there is one where I can see 'clearly' (just a way to say that I can see something  ) that there are hairs on the arista. I have put an arrow to show the area where I can see them. It is against the pale background.Does this help to suggest another possible genus? I am really interested in this one as I hardly ever find Lonchaeidae
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| Iain MacGowan |
Posted on 18-11-2013 15:12
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Member Location: Perth, Scotland Posts: 459 Joined: 25.11.04 |
Ah yes that helps - I did think that the aculeus (ovipositor) looked a bit like a Silba species but the plumose arista confirms that the specimen belongs to this genus. The most likely candidate in southern Europe is Silba adipata - the black fig fly - a well known pest of fig crops info at : http://lonchaeidae.myspecies.info/category/lonchaeidae-classification-and-species-info/lonchaeidae/lonchaeinae/silba/silba-adipata-195 hope this helps ......... Iain Iain MacGowan |
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| Piluca_Alvarez |
Posted on 19-11-2013 10:15
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Member Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 2431 Joined: 06.11.10 |
Superb, Ian!! Thank you very much!!! I knew you could do it!! |
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