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| wilde |
Posted on 23-04-2007 13:46
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Member Location: Koudekerke, Netherlands Posts: 176 Joined: 13.09.06 |
Do they belong to the Muscidae? Which species?
wilde attached the following image:  [143.64Kb] Edited by wilde on 23-04-2007 13:47 Albert de Wilde |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 23-04-2007 17:06
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18833 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Musca it is, species seems to be autumnalis Theo Zeegers |
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| wilde |
Posted on 23-04-2007 18:38
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Member Location: Koudekerke, Netherlands Posts: 176 Joined: 13.09.06 |
Thanks for your help.
Albert de Wilde |
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| wilde |
Posted on 31-01-2008 17:09
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Member Location: Koudekerke, Netherlands Posts: 176 Joined: 13.09.06 |
The eyes of the male don't reach eachother. Isn't it more likely to be Musca domestica?
Edited by wilde on 09-02-2008 18:32 Albert de Wilde |
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| wilde |
Posted on 09-02-2008 12:12
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Member Location: Koudekerke, Netherlands Posts: 176 Joined: 13.09.06 |
My photo doesn't match with the photos in the gallery of M. autumnalis. Nobody willing to give further comments?
Albert de Wilde |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 09-02-2008 13:44
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9356 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Theo was right, it is M.autumnalis - male frons is rather wide, and female has wide parafrontalia and narrow interfrontalia. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| wilde |
Posted on 09-02-2008 17:55
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Member Location: Koudekerke, Netherlands Posts: 176 Joined: 13.09.06 |
Thanks, but what are parafrontalia and interfrontalia? I never heard of these words. On the internet I found out that the room between the eyes at the top of the head are the parafrontalia, but interfrontalia still are a puzzle. Please explain it to me. Crex photo in the gallery shows a male C. autumnalis with eyes without any room between them at the top. Is its name wrong? Edited by wilde on 09-02-2008 18:48 Albert de Wilde |
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| Stephane Lebrun |
Posted on 09-02-2008 22:11
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 Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07 |
Hello, parafrontaliae are the fronto-orbital plates, which are on each side of the middle dark vitta, called frontalia. Male Musca autumnalis has touching orbital plates or nearly so, but always narrower than in M. domestica. Stephane. |
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| Andre |
Posted on 09-02-2008 22:19
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 Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Please look at the 'glossary' section of this site, for more info  |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-02-2008 22:20
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Musca autumnalis alright! |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 09-02-2008 22:22
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Stephane Lebrun wrote: Hello, parafrontaliae are the fronto-orbital plates, which are on each side of the middle dark vitta, called frontalia. Male Musca autumnalis has touching orbital plates or nearly so, but always narrower than in M. domestica. see also the Overviews section. There are almost everything over there. |
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| Andre |
Posted on 09-02-2008 22:25
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Member Location: Tilburg, the Netherlands Posts: 2111 Joined: 18.07.04 |
Damn.. can't find those words in the Glossary...  |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 10-02-2008 11:11
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9356 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Frons consist of 3 parts - central one - interfrontalia, and two parafrontalia on both sides
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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