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 Brachycera acalyptrata--> Sciapus (Dolichopodidae)
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 26-06-2013 10:00
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 Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
This small fly -7 mm- entered home yesterday june the 25th 2013 (Iberian peninsula: Catalonia: Girona: Beuda, 400 m) I don't see any coastal breaks in the wing. rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [183.63Kb] Edited by rafael_carbonell on 27-06-2013 08:57 |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 26-06-2013 10:06
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 26-06-2013 10:07
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 26-06-2013 10:09
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
... it has some hairs on posterior spiracle
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 26-06-2013 10:10
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
I would like to know what I did wrong with the keys... |
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| Stefan Naglis |
Posted on 26-06-2013 11:04
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Member Location: Switzerland Posts: 738 Joined: 27.12.08 |
Sciapus sp. (Dolichopodidae) |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 26-06-2013 23:18
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Thanks a lot Stephan! I add two views of the genitalia so if it's possible to get further rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [75.52Kb] Edited by rafael_carbonell on 26-06-2013 23:20 |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 26-06-2013 23:19
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
...may be Sciapus heteropygus?
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 27-06-2013 09:09
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19229 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Without the option to move either image and having to compare different static images of the genitalia it is difficult to be 100% certain, but I'd say you are right.
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| Stefan Naglis |
Posted on 27-06-2013 09:41
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Member Location: Switzerland Posts: 738 Joined: 27.12.08 |
The genitalia looks different than that of heteropygus. Are the fore or mid tarsomeres modified? You can send me a specimen for examination. Stefan Edited by Stefan Naglis on 27-06-2013 09:42 |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 27-06-2013 10:33
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
It seems not to have specially modified tarsomeres, I'll write you Stefan a private message this afternoon. Meanwhile I think is better to take out the arabic glue and put the fly inside wine spirit-alcohol? Rafael |
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| Stefan Naglis |
Posted on 27-06-2013 10:51
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Member Location: Switzerland Posts: 738 Joined: 27.12.08 |
Rafael, best is to put the specimens in at least 70% (or more) alcohol (ethanol). Stefan |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 27-06-2013 17:25
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Yes, that's what i was meaning (wine spirit is one of the translations)
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 27-06-2013 17:42
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
During manipulation, I tried to "open" carefully all the genitalia to make you see all the pieces; may be some pieces went out (but i didn't add anything!). Now it looks more similar to heteropygus, although a female could be able to say "it's not the same" (compared to fig 216 Faune de France): - the lower part is smoothly curved and ended in a broad appex - the two branches of the "fork piece" are more broad - the upper piece is also different rafael_carbonell attached the following image:  [113.08Kb] |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 27-06-2013 17:59
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Leg I
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 27-06-2013 18:00
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Leg I
Edited by rafael_carbonell on 27-06-2013 18:07 |
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 27-06-2013 18:01
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Leg II
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 27-06-2013 18:02
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
Leg III...
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| rafael_carbonell |
Posted on 27-06-2013 18:06
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Member Location: Beuda, Girona, Catalonia Posts: 655 Joined: 23.03.06 |
... and Femur I
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| Igor Grichanov |
Posted on 28-06-2013 07:57
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 Member Location: St.Petersburg, Russia Posts: 1687 Joined: 17.08.06 |
I think Sciapus holoxanthos Parent or its undescribed relative. See Parent (1938). Catalonia is not far from Hyeres, type locality. Igor Grichanov |
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but don't see the image in the post.
