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 Eurina ducalis and calva? >Yes, by Sara
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| piros |
Posted on 17-12-2012 01:08
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1805 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Found near Szeged, S. Hungary, on 01. 05. 2012. Is it possible to ID this Eurina sp. (my best guess is E. ducalis), based on these pictures? Thanks for any comment! Henrik piros attached the following image:  [199.36Kb] Edited by piros on 14-01-2013 12:49 |
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Posted on 17-12-2012 01:11
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Posted on 17-12-2012 01:13
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Posted on 17-12-2012 01:14
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Posted on 22-12-2012 16:18
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1805 Joined: 04.01.12 |
I found a key and descriptions of Eurina here: http://archive.org/stream/chloropidaeeinem00beck/chloropidaeeinem00beck_djvu.txt Based on this (and according to my understanding of it) the fly above should be Eurina ducalis indeed. A year earlier, and a nearby, but different site I found another Eurina, which I thought was calva. I attache a few pictures of it below. piros attached the following image:  [172.56Kb] |
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Posted on 22-12-2012 16:19
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Posted on 22-12-2012 16:20
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Posted on 22-12-2012 16:25
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1805 Joined: 04.01.12 |
I would greatly appreciate confirmation of these IDs, especially that of E. ducalis, because, according to Fauna Europaea, this sp. is not known from Hungary, and I do not have any experience with this group of flies. Thanks in advance! Henrik Edited by piros on 22-12-2012 16:25 |
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Posted on 02-01-2013 12:30
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1805 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Just changed the title... |
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| Sara21392 |
Posted on 14-01-2013 12:01
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Unfortunately I don’t have this species (E. ducalis) in my keys, but according the site that you introduced (although is German and used translator for), I think you are right; Then, I think name of both species are true.
Sincerely yours Sara |
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| piros |
Posted on 14-01-2013 12:52
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1805 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Great , thank you very much indeed!(I also used translator...  )All the best for 2013! Henrik |
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| piros |
Posted on 14-01-2013 15:11
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1805 Joined: 04.01.12 |
I did not find any picture of Eurina in the Gallery, so I submitted some of these pics there. I am affraid I maneged to submit two of them twice . Sorry about that, Paul!Best regards, Henrik Edited by piros on 14-01-2013 15:11 |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 14-01-2013 16:37
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All sorted and no problem. Check out the left column with the latest gallery images. All different ones. 
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| piros |
Posted on 14-01-2013 17:35
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1805 Joined: 04.01.12 |
Thanks, Paul! |
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| von Tschirnhaus |
Posted on 18-05-2013 14:42
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Member Location: Bielefeld, Germany Posts: 454 Joined: 04.11.07 |
Eurina calva Egger, 1862 (Chloropidae). Though there occur only 7 Eurina spp. in the Palaearctic, they are not easy to identify, e.g. partly after the key of Duda 1933 in Lindner. After the unpublished experience of M.v.Tschirnhaus in E. calva the setulae on the ocellar triangle arise from 4 or more rows of dark punctures lateral of the central groove, being light and very short (ducalis: 2 (or 3 incomplete) rows; deep black and relatively long), and the setulae on the scutum are dense and light (ducalis: deep black). The 2nd antennal segment (as mentioned in the literature) is not longer than the 3rd (ducalis: slightly longer). The species may develop in the root system or shoots of Phragmites australis (Poaceae). The three species triangularis Becker, ducalis Costa and calva were swept together on young reed shoots in Greece by M.v.T., though ducalis is known to produce galls on Scirpus tuberosus (Cyperaceae) and larvae of triangularis are boring in the stems of the same Scirpus host-species.
Edited by von Tschirnhaus on 18-05-2013 16:32 |
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