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 new family for me.. nematocera
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-03-2007 01:09
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Hi * locality - Silgueiros - Viseu - PORTUGAL * date - 2007.03.09 * size - 6 mm (medium fly) * habitat - open land * substrate - near moss / grass Nematocera. Arista terminal and bare.. wing venation remember a Ceratopogonidae fly,, but the size doesn?t fit? jorgemotalmeida attached the following image:  [193.06Kb] |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-03-2007 01:12
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
lateral view
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-03-2007 01:13
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
it is all punctuated in tergites! spiracles? |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-03-2007 01:16
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head and terminal, bare arista
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-03-2007 01:18
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
forget Ceratopogonidae. antena doesn?t fit neither lenght, neither abdomen... so, what this can be? |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 10-03-2007 12:49
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1802 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Rhagionidae?
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 10-03-2007 19:48
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
this seems to be a Nematocera fly.  but if this is really Rhagionidae (and it fits!) how can be this be Brachycera? I mean: I have tought Nematocera with long abdomen and slender like this one, it hasn?t a stout abdomen as usual as we see in Brachycera... I know that in Nature there are greys... is this the case?  If Rhagionidae... is there in diptera.info any expert to say more about the fly.. genus level, at least?? I'm waiting for more opinions... Thanks Susan! |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 10-03-2007 23:06
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9475 Joined: 24.05.05 |
If Rhagionidae... is there in diptera.info any expert to say more about the fly.. genus level, at least?? I'm not the Expert you search  But as non-expert, I think that 1. Susan is right. 2. I'd say it is female of some Chrysopilus Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| PeterKerr |
Posted on 12-03-2007 21:22
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This is Rhagionidae, genus Rhagio Fabricius. English common name, snipe fly. Jorge mentioned the long slender abdomen- the common name for this family is in reference to this feature. An easy way to tell Chrysopilus and Rhagio apart (if there is any question), is to examine the hind tibia. Chrysopilus has one hind tibial spur while Rhagio has two spurs. Cheers, Peter |
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