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 Tachinid fly?
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| Martin Suvak |
Posted on 12-02-2007 10:05
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Member Location: Slovakia Posts: 51 Joined: 02.11.06 |
Hello, size cca 6.5 mm, xerothermal habitat, Slovakia, July 2005 I have only this dorsal view. Is it possible to identify it (at least approximately), please? Martin Martin Suvak attached the following image:  [134.36Kb] |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 12-02-2007 14:43
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
It does look like a phasiine tachinid - but not Phasia sp. (there's no petiole). To be honest though, I am not entirely sure what it is - we'll have to wait for Theo I think  |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 12-02-2007 15:17
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9536 Joined: 24.05.05 |
What about Clytiomya (continua?)?
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 12-02-2007 16:18
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Well, I have never seen a confirmed Clytiomyia and the only one I have here is orange, and looks very like an Eliozeta. But perhaps the other sex is brown (?) ... not sure - I wish they were commoner here in the UK |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 12-02-2007 22:03
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19286 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Yeap, it's Clytiomyia It could have been Eliozeta as well, however, it's not pellucens because of the arista and not helluo because of the colouration. So this leaves Clytiomyia. CAn't tell the colouration of hairs on pleurae. Still.C. continua is the most likely bet. Theo |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 12-02-2007 23:28
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
So, are Eliozeta and Clytiomyia sexually dimorphic? The ones I have seen have always had a vivid orange abdomen. |
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| Martin Suvak |
Posted on 13-02-2007 08:37
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Member Location: Slovakia Posts: 51 Joined: 02.11.06 |
The genus (and even species!) specification is more than I could expect from such view, thank you very much Chris, Nikita and Theo. I had a look at my general key for Slovak Diptera (Doskočil 1977) and there are mentioned 2 Clytiomyia species - C. continua and C. helluo and one Heliozeta species (=Eliozeta?) ? H. pellucens, all mentioned also by Theo. Apparently, taxonomy of Tachinidae has changed from that time, . But from the faunistic viewpoint, can it be other Clytiomyia species than C. continua in Slovakia?Martin Edited by Martin Suvak on 13-02-2007 13:15 |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 13-02-2007 19:28
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19286 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Well, you are right, Martin, Heliozeta = Eliozeta and helluo is in that genus now. C. continua is the only sure Clytiomyia for Slovakia. There is a very small chance you might have C. sola in the south. Normally one can check this on www.faunaeur.org, however, it is down at the moment. So try yourself sometime this week. Greetings Theo |
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| Martin Suvak |
Posted on 14-02-2007 09:14
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Member Location: Slovakia Posts: 51 Joined: 02.11.06 |
Thank you for additional information Theo. I will try this page later (at the moment, it is really non-functional) Martin |
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