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Aneomochtherus hungaricus cf, Asildae, Hungary
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Posted on 09-02-2007 11:57
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I hope someone can help me with these Asilids. I do not have any literature on this family.
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Another view of this yellow-legged largish species.
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Neomochterus sp. I can only say not N. palipes
 
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I checked, this genus has not yet been recorded from Hungary. So any species would be a new for Hungary! I assume no one can determine this at the species level without having the specimen.
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Strange.
In Hungary should be Neomochtherus pallipes and N. flavipes. Neomochtherus pallipes has black antenae and I think it is common species.
I have also description in my key to Asilidae(Trojan, 1970) male of N. shineri and it is very similar to female on the photo.



Sorry for my english
 
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I think the valid genus name here is Aneomochtherus that is why I did not find it. This is a new genus by Lehr (1996). Do you know what the difference is between N. and A. genera?

In faunaeur.org three species are recorded for Hungary: A. flavicornis, flavipes and hungaricus. No Neomochterus sp is recorded from Hungary, so there is neither confirmed record of N. pallipes nor N. schineri. Schineri is recorded from virtually all neighboring countries of Hungary, so its presence in Hungary is quite possible.

The Asilidae fauna of Hungary is not known properly.

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After a few rounds of correspondence with experts this is fly is most likely N. pallipes. Faunaeur.org is not up-to-date as far as the Asilids are concerned.

Thx for everyone for the help.
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I think this species looks like 'Neomochtherus schineri'.
New Book "The Robberflies of Germany" from Danny Wolff - Markus Gebel - Fritz Geller-Grimm http://www.asilid...
 
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I downloaded and enlarged these pics, and it turned out that the first two antennal segments are red (3rd black), all bristles on the scutum are white, and the ovipositor is relatively high, so my guess is Aneomochtherus hungaricus.

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Henrik
 
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Great!

Henrik, can you provide me Asilidae literature on this species?
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Most complete work is Tsacas 1968. In my experience males are bit easier to ID.
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Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

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Can you send me that work?
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File sent :-)
Greetings,

Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

https://www.nev.nl/diptera/
 
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The first book seem to be out of stock, but seems to cover only the North-Europaean fauna.

The second link does not work, but I could somehow get around it, and find the publications of Tsacas in the library.

https://naturalis.on.worldcat.org/v2/search/detail/68473806?queryString=Tsacas&clusterResults=true&groupVariantRecords=false

The publication is available for loan, I will need to check is international loan is available. The more serious problem is that I unfortunately do not speak French Sad
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I sent you Tascas 68 by wetransfer.....keresztespok@ You should have received a message...
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Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

https://www.nev.nl/diptera/
 
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