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 Aneomochtherus hungaricus cf, Asildae, Hungary
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| Xespok |
Posted on 09-02-2007 10:57
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I hope someone can help me with these Asilids. I do not have any literature on this family.
Xespok attached the following image:  [65.53Kb] Edited by Xespok on 04-08-2021 16:23 Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 09-02-2007 10:57
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Another view of this yellow-legged largish species.
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| Lukasz Mielczarek |
Posted on 18-02-2007 23:36
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 Member Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 498 Joined: 27.09.06 |
Neomochterus sp. I can only say not N. palipes |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 19-02-2007 17:05
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I checked, this genus has not yet been recorded from Hungary. So any species would be a new for Hungary! I assume no one can determine this at the species level without having the specimen.
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| Lukasz Mielczarek |
Posted on 19-02-2007 18:32
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Member Location: Poland, Krakow Posts: 498 Joined: 27.09.06 |
Strange. In Hungary should be Neomochtherus pallipes and N. flavipes. Neomochtherus pallipes has black antenae and I think it is common species. I have also description in my key to Asilidae(Trojan, 1970) male of N. shineri and it is very similar to female on the photo. Sorry for my english |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 20-02-2007 11:57
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I think the valid genus name here is Aneomochtherus that is why I did not find it. This is a new genus by Lehr (1996). Do you know what the difference is between N. and A. genera? In faunaeur.org three species are recorded for Hungary: A. flavicornis, flavipes and hungaricus. No Neomochterus sp is recorded from Hungary, so there is neither confirmed record of N. pallipes nor N. schineri. Schineri is recorded from virtually all neighboring countries of Hungary, so its presence in Hungary is quite possible. The Asilidae fauna of Hungary is not known properly. Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 18-03-2007 14:50
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
After a few rounds of correspondence with experts this is fly is most likely N. pallipes. Faunaeur.org is not up-to-date as far as the Asilids are concerned. Thx for everyone for the help. Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Markus Gebel |
Posted on 18-02-2020 09:44
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 Member Location: Germany Posts: 210 Joined: 18.07.06 |
I think this species looks like 'Neomochtherus schineri'.
New Book "The Robberflies of Germany" from Danny Wolff - Markus Gebel - Fritz Geller-Grimm http://www.asilid... |
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| piros |
Posted on 18-02-2020 10:17
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Member Location: Szeged, Hungary Posts: 1763 Joined: 04.01.12 |
I downloaded and enlarged these pics, and it turned out that the first two antennal segments are red (3rd black), all bristles on the scutum are white, and the ovipositor is relatively high, so my guess is Aneomochtherus hungaricus. Greetings, Henrik |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 04-08-2021 16:22
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Great! Henrik, can you provide me Asilidae literature on this species? Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 04-08-2021 20:19
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 Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2198 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Most complete work is Tsacas 1968. In my experience males are bit easier to ID.
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 04-08-2021 21:13
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Can you send me that work?
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 05-08-2021 00:33
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2198 Joined: 18.05.10 |
File sent :-)
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 05-08-2021 07:19
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
The first book seem to be out of stock, but seems to cover only the North-Europaean fauna. The second link does not work, but I could somehow get around it, and find the publications of Tsacas in the library. https://naturalis.on.worldcat.org/v2/search/detail/68473806?queryString=Tsacas&clusterResults=true&groupVariantRecords=false The publication is available for loan, I will need to check is international loan is available. The more serious problem is that I unfortunately do not speak French 
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| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 05-08-2021 14:23
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Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2198 Joined: 18.05.10 |
I sent you Tascas 68 by wetransfer.....keresztespok@ You should have received a message...
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
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but don't see the image in the post.
