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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 10-01-2007 09:45
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13813 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, forum! Are these two tiny flies (pic 2 and 3 should be same species) all Sphaeroceridae? No. 1 was about 2 mm long, no. 2/3 only slightly larger. Most obvious difference: clear resp. shaded wings.   
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| crex |
Posted on 10-01-2007 11:47
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 Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
The dull dark grey thorax and M on head I believe is characteristic for some genus. I would have searched the forum for it, but diptera.info is so incredibly slow these days. |
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| crex |
Posted on 10-01-2007 12:59
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
I think the last two are Desmometopa sp (Milichiidae). |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 10-01-2007 13:33
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No, the last two is Sphaeroceridae. The first one isn't Sphaeroceridae. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 11-01-2007 01:59
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13813 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, crex and Nikita! Nikita Vikhrev wrote: No, the last two is Sphaeroceridae. The first one isn't Sphaeroceridae. Thanks! The more often I watched the first photo, the more I also had come to the conclusion that that fly must belong to another family. But which one??? Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 11-01-2007 09:16
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19311 Joined: 11.05.04 |
The top one might well be a species of the Drosophila obscure group.
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| crex |
Posted on 11-01-2007 11:56
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Member Location: Sweden Posts: 1996 Joined: 22.05.06 |
Nikita Vikhrev wrote: No, the last two is Sphaeroceridae. The first one isn't Sphaeroceridae. Nikita How do one see the difference between Desmometopa (Milichiidae) and Sphaeroceridae? The only thing I can come up with is the scutellum seems more elongated on the latter. They both are small blackish and have dark thorax with contrasting grey hairs, long arista etc. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 11-01-2007 11:59
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13813 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Paul! Paul Beuk wrote: The top one might well be a species of the Drosophila obscure group. Interesting! It reminded me of Drosophilidae from the general habitus, but I had never seen such a dark member of that family (the D. subobscura in the gallery doesn't seem so black). Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 11-01-2007 14:11
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Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19311 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Lateral and dorsal view may make a difference in how 'light' and 'dark' are perceived. There appears to be some clouding near the apex of R2+3, so it might be D. obsucra itself.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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