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Nikita Vikhrev
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Near Kushadasi, 19 dec, 5mm
It acts like Ephydra and has directed out or, so as I understand Ephydrinae.
May be Coenia?
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Not one I recognise!Sad
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Nikita Vikhrev
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Hi Tony, sounds interestingGrin
I couldn't get siutable genus neither with Nartchuk key, nor with Krivosheina's key for Far East.
At least do you confirm Ephydrinae?
Tomorrow I'll come back and try to make good lile image and collect more...
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Life image.
But it seems that legs are black?
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Well, I'm inclined to think that these are two species of the same genus, and the genus is probably Brachydeutera - not one I'm familiar with, but according to Fauna Europaea there is at least one species known from Turkey.
The lower photo is female and the top one appears to be male, so there may be a gender difference in leg colour. If so, it is unusual in Ephydridae.
I believe Marina knows this genus. She should be able to help name the specimens. (Great pic, as usual! Pfft)
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Thank you Tony.
I collected specimens on foto and 2 more. To my astonishment all collected flies are with yellow legs.
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What do you use as a killing agent? It's possible that a solvent could alter the dusting on the legs to let the ground colour show through, but it does seem a bit strange!Shock
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I use ethylacetat (via woman's liquid for nail polish removing).
Realy strange: all collected flies (7 sp) - with yellow legs, another one life image - with blackish legs too...
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It seems to my that a year ago Ephydridae from very dirty pool in South Pattaya, Thailand looks alike turkish Brachydeutera(?). Same watersurface activity, but 2-3 times less size.
Possible?
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Genus (excluding the Thai fly) confirmed as Brachydeutera by Marina Krivosheina.
As a "Happy New Year" two images below - Collembola jump on Brachydeutera's head. Brachydeutera's reaction was rather natural...
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Confirmed as Brachydeutera ibari by Marina Krivosheina.
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