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| Andrius |
Posted on 15-12-2006 20:38
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Member Location: Lithuania Posts: 315 Joined: 27.01.05 |
I've came into several problems while dealing with Platystomatidae. Firstly, is there a key for Palearctic species of this family? And secondly, Fauna Europaea gives Platystoma seminatione (Fabricius 1775) with six subspecies while most of other online catalogs give Platystoma seminationis (Fabricius, 1775) - which of those is correct? Thank you for any suggestions  |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 15-12-2006 23:12
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7232 Joined: 19.11.04 |
I'm no Latin scholar, but I suspect that seminationis is a noun (derived from the verb seminatio) in the genitive case. As a noun in apposition, it should retain its original spelling. If it is an adjective, then the ending should be changed to match the gender of the genus, which is indeed neutral (stoma being a Greek word of neuter gender). Despite a couple of hours searching, I cannot find out whether seminationis is a noun or an adjective.  Anyone got a very big Latin dictionary? 
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 23-06-2007 22:17
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
seminationis is a noun. It is a genitive of seminatio--- it means "of reproduction" (or something like that) . I'm curious about the meaning of Platystoma... because I didn?t find in dictionary.  Today I found lots of flies, some are new... and i found very probably this fly -> Platystoma cf. seminationis above Olea europaea's trunk. your new avatar.  ehehe |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 24-06-2007 00:06
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7232 Joined: 19.11.04 |
jorgemotalmeida wrote: seminationis is a noun. It is a genitive of seminatio--- it means "of reproduction" (or something like that) . I'm curious about the meaning of Platystoma... because I didn?t find in dictionary. your new avatar. eheheI think "Platy" refers to broad or flat and "stoma" to mouth, so Platystoma means "broad-mouth". The new "face" is the posterior end of a Tipula larva. Having taken the photos, I couldn't resist cropping one for a new avatar - this is exactly what it was like - no Photoshop alterations! 
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 24-06-2007 00:36
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
tipulidae larvae! Where did you find it? |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 24-06-2007 12:22
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Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7232 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Under some stones in my garden - they are very common pests here.
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| Andrew Whittington |
Posted on 30-06-2007 19:16
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 Member Location: Snowdonia Posts: 109 Joined: 30.01.07 |
Andrius, Welcome to the World of Platystomatidae, where there are many taxonomic problems. Hennig, W. 1945. Platystomidae. Die fliegen der Palaearktischen Region: 48: 1 - 56. is your best bet, although not ideal in some respects. Platystoma seminationis (Fabricius, 1775) is correct. I'm intrigued - what do have? Are there many specimens and is there a need for a revised key to the European species? I have been focusing on the tropical fauna, because there is so much more work required there. -----o0o----- Andrew E. Whittington https://flyevidence.co.uk/ |
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