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 Herina palustris., Ulidiidae, Hungary
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| Xespok |
Posted on 04-12-2006 20:51
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Do not know what this could be. Similar to Madiza glabra, Milichiidae posted as a dead specimen by someone earlier last week.
Xespok attached the following image:  [62.39Kb] Edited by Xespok on 09-12-2006 09:36 Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 04-12-2006 20:53
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
A view from the top.
Xespok attached the following image:  [83.81Kb] Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 04-12-2006 20:57
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9223 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I think it is Ulidiidae. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 05-12-2006 21:53
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Thx Nikita, the yellow area between the eyes is quite characteristic for Ulidiidae, so you may well be right.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| John Smit |
Posted on 06-12-2006 11:17
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 Member Location: Utrecht Posts: 565 Joined: 05.10.04 |
Genus Herina, but there it ends, for the time being. I'll have a look, but I can't promise you anything. Cheers, John |
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| John Smit |
Posted on 08-12-2006 11:27
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Member Location: Utrecht Posts: 565 Joined: 05.10.04 |
Hi Xespok, Either Herina oscillans, or H. palustris. Only separable on the aculeus, so impossible to identify from a photograph. Best wishes, John |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 08-12-2006 13:39
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Thx John, I try to look up the Hungarian literature concerning these species.
Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 09-12-2006 09:35
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
John, this will be H. palustris. Based on the literature that I have the most obvious difference between oscillans and palustris is that in the former species the antennae attach to the head around or below the verical axis of the eye, whereas in the later it is clearly attached to above the axis. Oscillans should also live in dry sand habitats, wheras palustris lives in marshy areas. Oscillans is rare and local in Hungary and palustris should be common in the lowland marsh habitats. So palustris it will be. Gabor Keresztes Japan Wildlife Gallery Carpathian Basin Wildlife Gallery |
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| John Smit |
Posted on 09-12-2006 10:35
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Member Location: Utrecht Posts: 565 Joined: 05.10.04 |
Ahh, Gabor is your real name. In that case hi Gabor! Thanks for the uodate. I was not aware of the differnce in placement of the antennae, nor in the habitat. I did assume that H. palustris would be more common than H. oscillans. Best wishes, John |
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but don't see the image in the post.
