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 Palloptera or Opomyza ?
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| Vadet |
Posted on 12-08-2004 22:31
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Member Location: Boulogne sur mer Posts: 14 Joined: 06.08.04 |
Hello a very little fly, always movings his wings when walking on Heracleum spondylium length of the body , about 2 mm Boulonnais, Northern France I thought palloptera, C Thirion said Opomyza, the second name seems better Somebody have an idea ?? Best regards Alain Vadet  |
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| Gerard Pennards |
Posted on 13-08-2004 09:52
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 Member Location: Amersfoort Posts: 1914 Joined: 07.06.04 |
Hai Alain, This one is indeed a Pallopteridae. In fact it is a Palloptera sp. In Holland there are only 9 species, but I can't tell you which one it is! Greetings! Greetings, Gerard Pennards |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 13-08-2004 14:09
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19268 Joined: 11.05.04 |
The details are not clear enought to say with certainty, but it maybe Palloptera trimacula. In this species the anterior crossvein should not be infuscate and this is exactly the character which is not quite clear. Otherwise it well agrees with that species. Maybe Jan Willem (JeeWee) can decide on other characters.
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 13-08-2004 14:09
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2130 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Hi Alain, I agree with Gerard! It is a pallopterid. My first guess is that it is a specimen of Palloptera trimacula (Meigen, 1826). Do you have more pictures of this specimen from other viewpoints? That might help to get it possitively identified! Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| Vadet |
Posted on 13-08-2004 22:35
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Member Location: Boulogne sur mer Posts: 14 Joined: 06.08.04 |
If the weather is good enough this week end I will go back to the same place where they were about 20-30 flies on each Heracleum, to take other picutres and caputre some flies Best regards Alain Vadet |
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| Vadet |
Posted on 16-08-2004 22:08
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Member Location: Boulogne sur mer Posts: 14 Joined: 06.08.04 |
I went to the same place et take pictures of the same (?) soecies, it was on Angelica sylvestris, and always returning on hidden face of the flowers, hard to take a picture here it is a superior view Best regards Alain Vadet  |
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| Vadet |
Posted on 16-08-2004 22:10
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Member Location: Boulogne sur mer Posts: 14 Joined: 06.08.04 |
and the same in lateral view Alain Vadet  |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 16-08-2004 22:47
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Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2130 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Hi Alain, Again very nice pictures. In my opinion it is save to identify this species as Palloptera trimacula. This species is known to be found on Umbelliferae. Furthermore Parmenter (1951, 1960) raised imagines from puparia found in December under the epidermis of the stalk of Angelica silvestris. Parmenter, L., 1951. Notes on the Distribution of Pallopteridae in Britain. -- Ent. Record, 63(12): 304-306. Parmenter, L., 1960. A Further List of the Diptera of Bookham Common. Lond. Nat., 39 (1959): 66-76. Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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but don't see the image in the post.
