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 Pallopteridae from June (17.06.11): Palloptera umbellatarum? --> confirmed
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 11-12-2011 19:17
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14322 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! Or are there similar species? About 4.5 mm, at at forest path (northwest Germany). Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [74.03Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 12-12-2011 19:01 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| libor |
Posted on 11-12-2011 19:30
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1291 Joined: 30.05.09 |
Do you have picture of thorax from side view? There are two possibilities: Palloptera umbellatarum and Toxoneura modesta. P.u. seems to be more probably according to wing color pattern, but I am not absolutely sure without seeing setae on thorax from side view... Libor |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 11-12-2011 19:56
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14322 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Libor! libor wrote: Do you have picture of thorax from side view? No, sorry, this is the only picture I could take. There are two possibilities: Palloptera umbellatarum and Toxoneura modesta. Interesting, thanks! I did not know of Toxoneura modesta. I guess this is a newer synonym of Palloptera modesta? Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| libor |
Posted on 11-12-2011 21:46
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1291 Joined: 30.05.09 |
Yes, Jürgen. I follow the nomenclature of Ozerov. T. modesta = P. modesta. I will chek my collection inthe museum tomorrow and maybe it help us to identify your animal exactly. Libor |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 11-12-2011 22:05
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14322 Joined: 11.09.04 |
libor wrote: Yes, Jürgen. I follow the nomenclature of Ozerov. T. modesta = P. modesta. I will chek my collection inthe museum tomorrow and maybe it help us to identify your animal exactly. Thanks a lot, Libor! Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| libor |
Posted on 12-12-2011 08:02
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1291 Joined: 30.05.09 |
So, for 95%, you can call your animal P. umbellatarum, Juergen! Libor |
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| Jan Willem |
Posted on 12-12-2011 12:44
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 Member Location: Waalwijk, The Netherlands Posts: 2160 Joined: 24.07.04 |
Hello Juergen, In Toxoneura modesta there is no spot on the anal vein. So T. modesta is not an option. Jan Willem van Zuijlen |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 12-12-2011 19:00
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 14322 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Libor and Jan Willem, thanks once more! Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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