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Juergen Peters
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 Hello!

These pics were taken yesterday in Ostwestfalen/Germany in our garden and at the forest edge. Can at least the families be determined? Thanks in advance!

The first one was only 2 mm. I have no idea about it.
www.foto-upload.de/diptera/061116/Brachycera_spp_2mm.jpg

The second one sat on tree trunks and was about 2.5-3 mm:
www.foto-upload.de/diptera/061116/Brachycera_spp_3mm.jpg

The third one was the "largest" with about 4 mm:
www.foto-upload.de/diptera/061116/Brachycera_spp_4mm_schwarz_M.jpg
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 second - I would say Dolichopodidae
third - I would say Lonchaeidae.
 
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 perhaps Medetera sp. the second one??
 
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 I will take the risk for the first one... Chloropidae?
 
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 First one gives the impression of Ephydridae.
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 Hello, Jorge!

Thanks! Chloropidae and Dolichopididae/Medetera sound plausible to me. Cannot judge about Lonchaeidae, never saw a male (?) with such large eyes.
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 Hello, Paul!

Paul Beuk wrote:
First one gives the impression of Ephydridae.


(Again overlapping posts...) Thanks! Ephydridae sounds very interesting to me. Never had that family, will take a look at my books for some informations on it.
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Juergen Peters wrote:
Hello, Paul!

Paul Beuk wrote:
First one gives the impression of Ephydridae.


(Again overlapping posts...) Thanks! Ephydridae sounds very interesting to me. Never had that family, will take a look at my books for some informations on it.


which books?? Smile I?m interesting to hear. Smile

I'm searching for books about dipters... and nothing. Sad

Just Evolution of insects that I will copy.... awkward
 
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 Hello, Jorge!

jorgemotalmeida wrote:
which books?? Smile I?m interesting to hear. Smile


I have only two books solely on flies, no special literature, and they are in German:

1. Joachim & Hiroko Haupt: "Fliegen und M?cken" (ISBN 3-89440-278-4)
2. Frieder Sauer: "Sauers Naturf?hrer: Fliegen und M?cken" (ISBN 3-923010-07-9)

(Fliegen = flies, M?cken = gnats, midges)
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 are they well illustrated, Juergen? With wing venation, details on the legs and other characters?... Frown I hope tthat hey are cheap... Smile
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 my suggestions (about the flies, not books)
1. Scaptomyza
2. Medetera
3. Muscidae
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 I thought about Scaptomyza (pallida) but the antennae appeared to big to me and the wings too broad...
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 Hello, Jorge!

are they well illustrated, Stephen?


?? ;-)

With wing venation, details on the legs and other characters?... Frown I hope tthat hey are cheap... Smile


The books are only field guides - with nice but only habitus photos (only generic drawings of details of wing venation, bristles etc. in the preface). I've got them from a second-hand book shop for under 10 ? each.
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 Hello, Paul and Tony!

I see, theese tiny flies are tricky even on family level. I will try to get better pics next time.
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Juergen Peters wrote:
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are they well illustrated, Stephen?


?? ;-)




>>>>>>>oopppppsss... I forgot to take my LSD.. lol opsss. not lsd but another thing. ehe Grin I was in the Moon. Smile
I did fix your real Smile name.


With wing venation, details on the legs and other characters?... Frown I hope tthat hey are cheap... Smile

The books are only field guides - with nice but only habitus photos (only generic drawings of details of wing venation, bristles etc. in the preface). I've got them from a second-hand book shop for under 10 ? each.



hmmm... that is what I want. Smile German it is not easy... Frown

perhaps there must be another good books concerning this subject. if anyone knows, let us to know. Smile

Thank you.... for you, Juergen! Smile
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jorgemotalmeida wrote:
hmmm... that is what I want. Smile German it is not easy... Frown

perhaps there must be another good books concerning this subject. if anyone knows, let us to know. Smile


The Haupt exists also in French, and maybe in English too.
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