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| Andre Jas |
Posted on 31-10-2006 17:04
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 Member Location: Georgsdorf, Germany Posts: 485 Joined: 04.10.04 |
Hi, Just this one photo. App. 20mm, sept. cold night. Andr Andre Jas attached the following image:  [49.37Kb] |
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| Andre Jas |
Posted on 31-10-2006 17:05
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Andre Jas attached the following image:  [42.88Kb] |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 31-10-2006 17:26
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This complex antenna is very rare in this region of Nematocera, and should allow easy ID for the knowledgable (not me). I think Trichoceridae never have this comb-like antennae, so I would put this down as a Limoniid crane fly. |
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| Andre Jas |
Posted on 31-10-2006 17:38
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Member Location: Georgsdorf, Germany Posts: 485 Joined: 04.10.04 |
Hi Xespok, Yeah I was looking at those antennae aswell. Couldn't find anything with those, so I got with what I've got (not much, just this shot) and ended up with Limoniidae, Pediciidae, Tipulidae and Trichoceridae. I'll wait for the other experts  . Thanks.Andr Edited by Andre Jas on 31-10-2006 17:39 |
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| Chen Young |
Posted on 01-11-2006 17:56
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 Member Location: Pittsburgh, PENNSYLVANIA USA Posts: 169 Joined: 25.08.05 |
in the genus Rhipidia (Rhipidia) in the Limoniidae, or Limonia (Rhipidia) in the Tipulidae. |
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| Andre Jas |
Posted on 01-11-2006 18:01
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In the systematics I find both Rhipidia and Limonia under Limoniidae. Is that correct? Andr |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 01-11-2006 21:29
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Some systematists believe Limoniidae are not a family but a subfamily of Tipulidae.
Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info |
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| Chen Young |
Posted on 01-11-2006 21:29
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Member Location: Pittsburgh, PENNSYLVANIA USA Posts: 169 Joined: 25.08.05 |
can both be found as genera in Limoniidae. Both Rhipidia and Limonia used to be subgenera within genus Limonia, Limonia (Rhipidia) and Limonia (Limonia). During the last updating of systematics of crane flies, these subgenera were upgraded to genus, thus Rhipidia and Limonia both become genera within Tribe Limoniini in subfamily Limoniinae of family Limoniidae. |
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| Andre Jas |
Posted on 01-11-2006 22:49
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Member Location: Georgsdorf, Germany Posts: 485 Joined: 04.10.04 |
Okay, Now I've got things straight again. Thanks both of you. Andr |
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