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Proctotrupidae, Hungary
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Posted on 24-10-2006 22:01
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It was quite small. Found in our garden.
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eguzki wrote:
It was quite small. Found in our garden.


I add another image to this thread. Does anyone help me at least the genera?
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For me it is not an Ichneumonidae. It looks more like a Proctotrupidae (see the wing venation).

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Wing venation of Proctotrupidae http://virgin.msu...mage10.jpg
from Motana State University.
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Hi Pierre and Robert!

Thank you for your interesting opinion! My knowledge is very poor about the Proctotrupidae. I guess that it is not easy to tell apart them from each other.

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You are right but here is an expert opinion from David Notton at the Natural History Museum, London "Assuming this is a Hungarian specimen or at least Palaearctic, it's most likely a species belonging to the genus Proctotrupes, on account of the metasoma being reddish basally. The species can be identified in Townes & Townes world revision, should your friend PfftPfft still have the specimen. From the terminalia, it looks like a male. These are fairly common parasities of beetle larvae." Robert
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Proctotrupes gravidator L. male Cool
 
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Very impressivePfftPfft which makes this a very useful pic of a correctly identified proctotrupid.Robert
 
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Hi Robert and proctoss!

I am very gladGrin because you could help me searching for the right identification. Thx!
 
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