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 Neon yellow and black Ichneumonid (02.04.11)
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 05-04-2011 21:52
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 Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13911 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! This rather big (ca. 20 mm) Ichneumonid ran around our wintergarden wall (under a cherry tree, from which the pollen may come from) in the night last Saturday northwest Germany). Larger pictures: http://www.foto-u..._2_big.jpg http://www.foto-u..._3_big.jpg http://www.foto-u..._4_big.jpg Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [76.2Kb] Edited by Juergen Peters on 05-04-2011 21:53 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 05-04-2011 21:54
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13911 Joined: 11.09.04 |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 05-04-2011 21:54
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13911 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #3
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 05-04-2011 21:54
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13911 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Pic #4
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| BubikolRamios |
Posted on 05-04-2011 22:06
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Member Location: Slovenia Posts: 1726 Joined: 14.06.09 |
my best guess is sphecidae
highly searchable nature photo galery --> http://agrozoo.ne....jsp?l2=en |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 05-04-2011 22:08
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Definitely Ichneumonidae but not sure which @BubikolRamios - check the length of the antennae - too long for Sphecidae 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 05-04-2011 23:53
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13911 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! Thanks. I was rather sure about Ichneumonidae. And we don't have so many true Sphecidae (not Crabronidae) here. I only saw a Sphecid once in my lifetime here: Ammophila sabulosa. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| BubikolRamios |
Posted on 07-04-2011 17:47
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Member Location: Slovenia Posts: 1726 Joined: 14.06.09 |
ChrisR wrote: Definitely Ichneumonidae but not sure which @BubikolRamios - check the length of the antennae - too long for Sphecidae What do u mean ? http://agrozoo.ne...||la|||en| I guess all my Sphecidae has a bit longer antenae then this one here. I was looking at second image for comarison to this one here. Edited by BubikolRamios on 07-04-2011 17:50 highly searchable nature photo galery --> http://agrozoo.ne....jsp?l2=en |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 07-04-2011 19:22
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13911 Joined: 11.09.04 |
BubikolRamios wrote:
ChrisR wrote: Definitely Ichneumonidae but not sure which @BubikolRamios - check the length of the antennae - too long for Sphecidae What do u mean ? http://agrozoo.ne...||la|||en| I guess all my Sphecidae has a bit longer antenae then this one here. I was looking at second image for comarison to this one here. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 07-04-2011 19:26
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13911 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello! BubikolRamios wrote: I guess all my Sphecidae has a bit longer antenae then this one here. The antennae may be relatively long, but they only have 12-13 segments. In Ichneumonidae there are at least 16 much smaller segments (mostly many more). I'm not able to count the segments at this animal (too blurred in the dark sections), but there are in any case more than 13. Edited by Juergen Peters on 07-04-2011 19:58 Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 07-04-2011 19:37
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Juergen Peters wrote: The antennae may be relatively long, but they only have 12-13 segments. In Ichneumonidae there are at least 16 much smaller segments (mostly many more). I'm not able to count the segments at this animal (to blurred in the dark sections), but there are in any case more than 13. Exactly 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| libor |
Posted on 07-04-2011 21:06
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Member Location: western Bohemia Posts: 1274 Joined: 30.05.09 |
I am not an expert, but your animal is overwintering fertilised female of Diphyus palliatorius or any extremely similar species. Libor |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 07-04-2011 21:39
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13911 Joined: 11.09.04 |
Hello, Libor! libor wrote: I am not an expert, but your animal is overwintering fertilised female of Diphyus palliatorius or any extremely similar species. Thank you! I had a male identified as that species already in August-09: Juergen Peters attached the following image:  [45.44Kb] Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 07-04-2011 22:02
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
photo number one= Ichneumon stramentor Rasnitzyn female photo number two, probably not Ichneumoninae not palliatorius????? cthirion |
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| Juergen Peters |
Posted on 07-04-2011 22:51
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Member Location: northwest Germany Posts: 13911 Joined: 11.09.04 |
cthirion wrote: photo number one= Ichneumon stramentor Rasnitzyn female Many thanks, Camille! photo number two, probably not Ichneumoninae not palliatorius????? ?? If I remember correctly, that was an identification by you or J. Valemberg. Best regards, Jürgen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Juergen Peters Borgholzhausen, Germany WWW: http://insektenfo... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |
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| cthirion |
Posted on 08-04-2011 20:59
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Member Location: Awirs (Flémalle) Belgique Posts: 901 Joined: 13.08.04 |
http://www.cthirion.be/images/details.php?image_id=372&sessionid=6038c869c2903066fe3f8c62c6aa344dc I can be mistaken but it is not the same insect???? cthirion |
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