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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 28-02-2011 18:31
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 Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5232 Joined: 20.11.09 |
I've put it before I think, yet no reaction. Can this fly be ID'd from this position...? Picture is made 9-9-2010 in Zeist, Holland hedy2411 attached the following image:  [99.23Kb] |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 28-02-2011 18:35
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Hmm, difficult - do you have other angles? It looks like either Dinera or Dexia.
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 28-02-2011 20:10
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18616 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Difficult to call. It has 3 post DC, so it can't be Dinera (we don't have carinifrons). I'm thinking Estheria. On the other hand, are we very sure indeed it is not some Calliphoridae ? Theo |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 02-03-2011 15:27
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 Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Zeegers wrote: It has 3 post DC, so it can't be Dinera (we don't have carinifrons). You donīt have carinifrons in the NL?? I have one male from Rurstausee (Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany), some 30 km SE from Maastricht... We even have the species in Finland. Edited by Jaakko on 03-03-2011 16:00 |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 02-03-2011 15:29
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Having said that, this is not carinifrons... Angiorhina?? |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 02-03-2011 18:40
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18616 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Hi Jaakko Big help ! Angiorhina, I remind you, this is Central Europe, not Finland. Yes, we don't have carinifrons, except for 1 very old speicmen. Carinifrons is typical in the middle mountains, and we don't have mountains. YOur find in the Eiffel, given 'Stausee', so that is really different from Limburg, no matter how close. Still interesting find ! Theo |
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| hedy2411 |
Posted on 03-03-2011 00:00
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Member Location: Zeist, Holland Posts: 5232 Joined: 20.11.09 |
....so, dear specialists  , what can I make of this fly...?  |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 03-03-2011 15:59
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Oops. I meant of course Angioneura (Calliphoridae). I have never seenAngiorhina (Tachinidae)... D. carinifrons is rather common here in Friedberg (Hessen) surroundings. Not too mountaneous either... |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 03-03-2011 18:02
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18616 Joined: 21.07.04 |
OK, Angioneura. It seems too big for Angioneura. As far as I'm concerned, I cannot 100 % exclude Bellardia. If somebody else can... What is your altitude asl. at Friedberg ? Mine is + 18 m. and that is considered 'higher' in The Netherlands Theo |
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| nielsyese |
Posted on 03-03-2011 18:33
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 Member Location: Yerseke, NL Posts: 2345 Joined: 13.02.09 |
Zeegers wrote: What is your altitude asl. at Friedberg ? Mine is + 18 m. and that is considered 'higher' in The Netherlands Yes, I live at -4 m |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 04-03-2011 13:15
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Quite gray to be Bellardia to me. Then rather a Pollenia female? I checked my navi: The D. carinifrons specimens (12 exx) are collected between 300 and 350 masl. It is still deciduous woods dominated. Might be that "mountains" are something different for me by definition. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 04-03-2011 13:41
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18616 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Our highest point is + 300 meters, the next highest + 200m. As for Pollenia, it looks pretty like Pollenia indeed, but the wavy hairs seem genuinely lacking (?) Theo |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 04-03-2011 17:37
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
I needed to have a reality check. +300 is pretty high for Finnish standards as well. This picture (which I thought is pretty montane) is from +200 masl. Our highest point is only 1324 m... so nothing compared to the Alps!
Jaakko attached the following image:  [130.75Kb] Edited by Jaakko on 04-03-2011 17:39 |
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| neprisikiski |
Posted on 04-03-2011 18:26
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Member Location: Lithuania Posts: 876 Joined: 23.02.09 |
I have collected a few D. carinifrons specimens from only 90 masl, but we have raised bogs almost everywhere, so our nature in this altitude resembles the nature of ~500 masl in the Central Europe.
Edited by neprisikiski on 04-03-2011 18:41 Erikas |
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but don't see the image in the post.