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| lynkos |
Posted on 02-10-2006 17:46
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Member Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 466 Joined: 20.06.05 |
Number 2, about 4 mm long, photographed in semi-woodland near Rome, Italy.  Thanks, Sarah. |
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| lynkos |
Posted on 07-10-2006 11:06
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Member Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 466 Joined: 20.06.05 |
Not even the slightest, merest, vaguest idea about this  ? Sarah. |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 07-10-2006 11:49
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
I think it is a Coenosia sp, Muscidae, but consider this opinion to be as close to a guess as it is possible.
Edited by Xespok on 07-10-2006 11:50 |
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| pierred |
Posted on 07-10-2006 20:14
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 Member Location: Paris (France) Posts: 1437 Joined: 21.04.05 |
Hello, You titled your post "after the confusion". May I suggest to change after to within... 
Pierre Duhem |
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| lynkos |
Posted on 08-10-2006 12:46
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Member Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 466 Joined: 20.06.05 |
I thought it looked a bit like a Coenosia too, but it's as much of a guess as yours . Think I'll take Pierre's advice and change the title! Sarah. |
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| lynkos |
Posted on 17-10-2006 06:09
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Member Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 466 Joined: 20.06.05 |
I don't really think this will help clear up the confusion, but I'll try anyway. It's just about the commonest fly in certain areas and it's so frustrating not knowing what it is  !
Edited by lynkos on 17-10-2006 06:10 |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 17-10-2006 08:41
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7236 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Second photo - the three equidistant sternopleural bristles and general jizz mean that this is Coenosiinae (Muscidae). It's a large subfamily with many similar species, so unless the species is distinctive, or the photo shows all the right features, it's tricky to take it further.
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| lynkos |
Posted on 18-10-2006 06:43
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Member Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 466 Joined: 20.06.05 |
Tony, that's quite far enough for me to take it out of the "unknown" folder! Thanks, Sarah. |
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| Robert Nash |
Posted on 18-10-2006 11:45
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Member Location: Ulster Museum, Belfast, Ireland Posts: 288 Joined: 11.11.05 |
Pic 2 Coenosia cf. mollicula a female. The male abdomen has more orange.This is one of the commonest Coenosia and the insect conforms with our (Ulster Museum) reliably named (Adrian Pont ) specimens. However without a specimen it is impossible to be sure. Perhaps 90%.Even chaetotaxy is variable in these flies (theoretically in all flies).We once had a specimen of Coenosia means which keyed to the wrong subfamily due to aberrant bristles. Slainte (Cheers) Robert |
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| lynkos |
Posted on 18-10-2006 19:42
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Member Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 466 Joined: 20.06.05 |
Great Robert, thanks, Sarah. |
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