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Gordon's Thai Project.
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Posted on 07-09-2010 11:50
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I guess this should be in general whatsitsAngry but I said I would put it here so I have.

To collect legally in Thailand you need to have a government approved project. I am hoping that by being a full-time resident and by working in harmony with only a couple of local National Parks, ones that are not as well studied as Doi Inthanon, that I will be able to get such a project together. With luck this will allow me to collect in some nice habitats here in far northern Thailand.

As you all know, when dealing with bureaucracyAngry it is best to have grand sounding names etc. I will be working partly with the NHM London, they will get most of the beetles, and a group of Romanian microhymenopterists (whom some of you now know) So I will present the project with a list of associates and (where possible) their institutes. I am sure some of you would like to receive material as well.

So if you would like to be in on the submitted project add your name, institute and group below. I am sorry I will not have time to dry and pin stuff. I will most likely be restricted to Yellowpan trapping and hand netting (because of lack of funds). Also I will be sorting with a x10 hand lens only, unless I find a microscope somewhere that I can use. So separating out the smaller acalyptrata may be problematical, you know I am not much good as a dipterist reallyWink.

I am sure promising to return info to the relevant authorities of Lam Nam Kok National Park will help, and perhaps some determined material to Chiang Mai University, so there will be a commitment to get some stuff determined fairly quickly.

I will keep people informed as things develop.Grin or don'tSad
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It's interesting but I should really pass on oriental tachinids, as I am spread so thinly on the neotropical already Grin

Theo might like to give them a try, because they should be identifiable to genus using Crosskey and perhaps other papers. But if he passes you should really try Hiroshi Shima, as he is the local expert on the oriental tachinids. Smile

EDIT: Unless I am reading it incorrectly you should change Greece to Thailand in the second paragraph Wink
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Hey Gordon,
Yes, I would be interested in identifying the Thai syrphids that you catch!
Name: Gerard Pennards
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ChrisR wrote:
................. But if he passes you should really try Hiroshi Shima, as he is the local expert on the oriental tachinids. Smile
Wink

Thanks Chris, but this time I'm not really worried what gets determined and what doesn't. If people are interested, and if I can get the project off the ground, then I will send stuff, but really I am only offering to collect because some people asked me to.
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EDIT: Unless I am reading it incorrectly you should change Greece to Thailand in the second paragraph

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Your reading is fine, and it is fixed. Thanks
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OK Gerard, I will include you in the proposition.
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I can probably pass on the Dolichopodidae that are included in Empidoidea to Marc Pollet, but if he or someone else offers him/herself for the Dolichopodidae and you sort them out, they can be excluded from the Empidoidea.

Though many groups are of interest to me I will not vollunteer for them (yet Wink) but perhaps wait till any unsorted material is delivered. Grin
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Heleomyzidae, Piophilidae , Pseudopomyzidae, if any will be taken :-)
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Pyrgotidae (at black light, along w/moths and on flowers) is the main target now, as I am doing a revision of the Old World genera. I can also help with Oriental Tephritidae, incl. bamboo ones, Ulidiidae/Otitidae and Platystomatidae.

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OK - it is nice to see some people coming on board, but it is not live yet, Thailand can be even more lethargic, bureaucratically than in Greece - still you know I will do my best.Grin
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Here's a vespid for you Dvorak.
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Vespidae: Polistinae: Polistes (Gyrostoma) rothneyi ssp. ??? Need to have it in hands for absolutely exact ID.
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Hi Gordon - I'm involved in another Thailand survey project too, so would be delighted with any lauxanioids (lauxaniids, chamaemyiids, celyphids), as well as odiniids, therevids and scenopinids! Smile
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Libor wrote:
Vespidae: Polistinae: Polistes (Gyrostoma) rothneyi ssp. ??? Need to have it in hands for absolutely exact ID.
Libor


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OK Stephen, I will add your name.

The good news is that Max Barclay's contact here, Mark Isenstadt has offered a Malaise trap, tubes and the loan of a microscope as well as helping to get the permission, so this project might fly yet. Also it turns out that a Thai birding friend of mine in BKK has as his boss a woman who is responsible for giving out permissions.Wink So I'm feeling mildly hopeful at the moment.
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I'd have a look at any Pipunculidae and Vermileonidae.

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Hi Gordon

Always interested in Lonchaeidae from Thailand as I have already done quite a lot of work on them - see:
http://lonchaeidae.myspecies.info/lonchaeidae-thailand

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Paul Beuk wrote:
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Though many groups are of interest to me I will not volunteer for them (yet Wink) but perhaps wait till any unsorted material is delivered. Grin


Ahh Paul,
I assume this means you have finished all my Greek EmpidsShock and will be sending me a list soon. Wink
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I am working on it, my dear man, yet I have numerous unidentifiable species to deal with, any number of which may be new to science. In addition it appears the Greek material expands the known colour variation of some species, adding to the confusion.
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Dare I be terribly unhip and ask for the psychodids - if you can be arsed to sort them, that is
 
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