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Unknown...but characteristic?
Matthieu
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Posted on 24-05-2005 10:45
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HelloSmile,
Here is the only (bad) picture I got of this flySad. I can't even find its family but it looks characteristic! And a detail as shown by the two arrows: strange protuberances on the sides of the thoraxShock... but its still a mystery for me: rhagionidae, or half a dozen various families...
perso.wanadoo.fr/a-o/unknown.jpg

Can you identify it?
Matthieu
 
Paul Beuk
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Posted on 24-05-2005 10:49
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Very good find, this. It is Clitellaria ephippium of the family Startiomyidae. The larvae live in ant nests. The species is considered to be rare. Once you have seen it, you will never forget it. There are some pictures of a pinned specimen in the Stratiomyidae album in the Diptera Gallery.
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Matthieu
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Posted on 24-05-2005 14:37
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Thanks Paul.

Once you have seen it, you will never forget it.


Yes indeed, at first glance I actually wondered what it could be! Shock

There are some pictures of a pinned specimen in the Stratiomyidae album in the Diptera Gallery.

Yes, nice fly!
I searched in the gallery before my post but I have many problems to identify family charactersGrin

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NJG
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Posted on 25-05-2005 20:50
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I would really love to see this species in real life!
And, living in Belgium I think that Sint-Pietersberg and the Belgian part of it (Montagne St. Pierre) could be good spots to look for it.
Does anyone have suggestions for other (closer) locations? (I live in the western part of Belgium, so I realise that I will have to drive quite a distance anyway...)
And another question for those who have already seen this species: do I have to look for it by checking flowers like umbellifers or is it better to try to find them while they are sunbathing on leaves etc.?

mvg
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Matthieu
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Posted on 26-05-2005 07:33
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I don't know if these informations are relevantShock but the one I saw was on a Rubus sp. leaf, at 10.30am, in woodland("alluvial forest" )-grassland border near Loire river (50m). It was not in direct sun.

Good find...Smile

Matthieu
 
NJG
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Posted on 26-05-2005 22:07
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Forgive me, but the Loire river may be just a little bit too far for me Smile

I will give it a try during the next weekends here in Belgium and I'm gathering as much information as I can right now. I will post my observations here (if I'm very lucky...)
 
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