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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2010 10:52
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 Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
I think that the tessellations on the abdomen identify this to family (Sarcophagidae?), but can anyone help me to pin it down further? And if you can, what are the give-away points to look out for? 
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2010 10:52
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Dorsal view this time ...
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2010 10:53
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And finally face ...
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-08-2010 10:55
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Calliphoridae - Pollenia sp. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 19-08-2010 10:58
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
The curly golden hairs give Pollenia away but often the hairs get rubbed off and only survive around the sides 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2010 11:05
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jorgemotalmeida wrote: Calliphoridae - Pollenia sp. Thanks, Jorge!
Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2010 11:08
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Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
ChrisR wrote: The curly golden hairs give Pollenia away but often the hairs get rubbed off and only survive around the sides Hi Chris - I DID wonder about those hairs, and something rang a bell somewhere ... this is still a steep learning curve for me! By the way, Chris, I have to say I'm struggling at the moment with the terminology when using keys - are there illustrations available which will point out most of the salient points of the diptera anatomy which are referred to in keys?
Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 19-08-2010 11:19
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Well, there are nice figures in the Central European tachinid key (and most keys should explain their terms at the start), but some terminology differs between keys and depends on which names the author was most familiar with. Google will help but if you need a hand then just ask. Which words in particular are vexing you?
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-08-2010 11:39
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
use this Jez Lee: http://diptera.in...ad_id=8803 -- Thorax lateral view http://diptera.in...ad_id=9242 -- Head frontal view http://diptera.in...ad_id=8790 -- Thoracic Setae http://diptera.in...ad_id=9039 -- Wing venation (but for other family...) |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2010 11:51
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Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
ChrisR wrote: Which words in particular are vexing you? All of them!  I'm just trying to key my Pollenia using the Steve Falk keys you sent me ... how about "presutural median stripe", "presutural achrosticals" and "anterior preapical bristle" for starters!
Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2010 11:55
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Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
jorgemotalmeida wrote: use this Jez Lee: http://diptera.in...ad_id=8803 -- Thorax lateral view http://diptera.in...ad_id=9242 -- Head frontal view http://diptera.in...ad_id=8790 -- Thoracic Setae http://diptera.in...ad_id=9039 -- Wing venation (but for other family...) Wow! Those are a BIG help, Jorge! I wish I could get such beautifully detailed photographs!
Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-08-2010 11:55
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
all those words are explained in the links above with photos! Also use the glossary that Paul Beuk made. |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2010 12:05
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Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
jorgemotalmeida wrote: all those words are explained in the links above with photos! Also use the glossary that Paul Beuk made. I've just found that, Jorge - why didn't I think to look here before!! Doh!!
Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 19-08-2010 12:10
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
to prepare genitalia see this small thread: http://diptera.in...d_id=10378 the tips of Kahis are great. Take a look. |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2010 13:21
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Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
jorgemotalmeida wrote: to prepare genitalia see this small thread: http://diptera.in...d_id=10378 the tips of Kahis are great. Take a look. Jorge - do you know what the facial keel is?
Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2010 13:32
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Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
I have just worked my way through the keys for Pollenia, and I have keyed it out to Pollenia pediculata. Does anyone know of any reason why it could NOT be this species?
Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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| Walther Gritsch |
Posted on 19-08-2010 13:56
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 Member Location: Copenhagen Posts: 276 Joined: 31.01.09 |
If it has a bundle of very small pale hairs at the junction of the humeral crossvein and subcosta on the underside of the wing, then I see no reason why it shouldn't be. This minute bundle of hairs gives away the species, which is kind of nice since female Pollenia sp. otherwise are notoriously hard to determine. But look carefully - these hairs are easy to miss! Regards, Walther |
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| jezlee |
Posted on 19-08-2010 15:41
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Member Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 195 Joined: 12.06.06 |
Walther Gritsch wrote: If it has a bundle of very small pale hairs at the junction of the humeral crossvein and subcosta on the underside of the wing, then I see no reason why it shouldn't be. This minute bundle of hairs gives away the species, which is kind of nice since female Pollenia sp. otherwise are notoriously hard to determine. But look carefully - these hairs are easy to miss! Regards, Hi Walter - I've looked under my microscope, which is only 20x magnification, but I can definitely see (if I look at the right angle) some fine pale hairs on the underside of the node.
Jez Lee www.uknature.co.uk |
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