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| mwa66 |
Posted on 14-08-2010 16:07
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Member Location: Torun, Poland Posts: 167 Joined: 09.05.10 |
This seems to be easy. Characteristic chessboard on abdomen. Sarcophaga carnaria,Sarciphagidae. Correct ?
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| JariF |
Posted on 14-08-2010 16:19
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 Member Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 2072 Joined: 20.01.06 |
I think this is a female and I'm not sure if there is a key for these. Males are separated by genitals but females not. I think Sarcophaga sp. is correct. (If this is Sarcophaga) Jari |
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| mwa66 |
Posted on 14-08-2010 16:34
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Member Location: Torun, Poland Posts: 167 Joined: 09.05.10 |
JariF wrote: I think this is a female and I'm not sure if there is a key for these. Males are separated by genitals but females not. I think Sarcophaga sp. is correct. (If this is Sarcophaga) Jari Next view . Is this helpful. Sp. is from Poland, central north. mwa66 attached the following image:  [118.66Kb] |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 14-08-2010 18:16
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
You're probably correct with Sarcophaga but it's impossible to say more - there are many species that look identical this this and can only be identified by examining male genitalia under a microscope  The first is a female so, even if we had the specimen, it would be impossible to identify  The second photo is a male but, again, it needs a specimen.
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| mwa66 |
Posted on 14-08-2010 18:40
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Member Location: Torun, Poland Posts: 167 Joined: 09.05.10 |
ChrisR wrote: You're probably correct with Sarcophaga but it's impossible to say more - there are many species that look identical this this and can only be identified by examining male genitalia under a microscope The first is a female so, even if we had the specimen, it would be impossible to identify The second photo is a male but, again, it needs a specimen. Chris thanks a lot for explanation. Beeing more fun of macrophoto actually focused on diptera for me it is more than enough. It means that Sarcophagas are not so easy to identify even just to say Yes it is Sarcophaga sp ? |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 14-08-2010 18:56
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Well, if they are big (>12mm) then they are usually in the Sarcophaga carnaria group of species ... but Wohlfahrtia are also big. There are lots of smaller species too, that used to be in different genera, that have now been placed into Sarcophaga but these are harder to identify because there are so many of them. They all have the long, checker-boarded abdomen and striped thorax ... but they have different, subtle bristle arrangements and have different male genitalia of course
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| mwa66 |
Posted on 14-08-2010 19:03
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Member Location: Torun, Poland Posts: 167 Joined: 09.05.10 |
ChrisR wrote: Clear. Thanks. Those two were not as big as you wrote. Nevertheless thanks a lot.Well, if they are big (>12mm) then they are usually in the Sarcophaga carnaria group of species ... but Wohlfahrtia are also big. There are lots of smaller species too, that used to be in different genera, that have now been placed into Sarcophaga but these are harder to identify because there are so many of them. They all have the long, checker-boarded abdomen and striped thorax ... but they have different, subtle bristle arrangements and have different male genitalia of course |
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