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 Gymnosoma nudifrons female (Theo Zeegers)
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| fernandolison |
Posted on 07-08-2010 09:17
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In the stuary of river Vaca, in Xeraco, Valencia. Spain. Coastal dunes. Take in 13th may. Thank you.
fernandolison attached the following image:  [37.23Kb] Edited by fernandolison on 11-08-2010 09:08 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 07-08-2010 09:42
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 Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Any more angles? It's a female but I doubt we will be able to say more without a specimen 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| fernandolison |
Posted on 07-08-2010 09:59
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Than, ChrisR, but I don't more photos. Can you say me 2 or 3 possible species?
Edited by fernandolison on 07-08-2010 10:05 |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 07-08-2010 10:18
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Super Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7706 Joined: 12.07.04 |
The problem is that nearly *all* of the Gymnosoma (but not nitens) are possible ... and in Spain you have a few species that are not in the Central European key, which makes them very hard to work on. For instance, in the key when you decide that it is female (abdomen pattern tells me this) the first couplet asks you to examine the shape of the genitalia ... so we fail right there. Theo Zeegers might be able to see some features that eliminate some species but Gymnosoma is a *very* difficult genus to identify (even with specimens) and is in need of revision to double-check whether some of the species are good/stable.
Edited by ChrisR on 07-08-2010 11:56 Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| fernandolison |
Posted on 07-08-2010 11:49
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Thanks! At least, I know isn't nitens... that is not bit for me. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 10-08-2010 20:46
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 19336 Joined: 21.07.04 |
but this one is from the easy female-with-black-parafrontals kind, so it should be G. nudifrons with little doubt Theo |
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| fernandolison |
Posted on 11-08-2010 09:02
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Member Location: Posts: 11 Joined: 06.08.10 |
Fantastic! Thanks, Theo. |
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