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Two Tiny Flies, Short Antennae
Stephen
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Posted on 29-08-2006 23:56
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Trying to figure out the family of these two tiny flies.

Fly #1: Size was 1.9 mm. Resting on a squash leaf, open area near woodlands, West Virginia USA, 10 August 2006.

Fly #2: Size was 3.2 mm. On Queen Anne's Lace, open area near a large pond, West Virginia USA, 27 August 2006.
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Here is Fly #2
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Nikita Vikhrev
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Hi Stephen.
1. Hydrellia sp., Ephidridae
2. I think some Chloropidae
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Thanks for your help Nikita! On Fly #1, he was not anywhere close to water, but I realize flies sometimes end up in unusual locations from wind or some other cause. He may have been out looking for a new location. Anyhow I appreciate your help with these two little guys!
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Tony Irwin
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I agree with Nikita that fly number 1 is Hydrellia, though the wing venation appears to be unlike any European species. However I think this could be explained by the wings being rolled over slightrly. Perhaps the fly had only just emerged? The fact that it was not near water is not a problem, as several species of Hydrellia are stem miners of grasses rather than aquatic plants.
As for fly number 2, I don't think it is Chloropidae. Somehow it is not compact enough (wrong jizz!) My suggestion is Sepsidae, probably Saltella sphondylii.
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Ah, stem miners in grasses. There certainly were abundant grasses nearby.

Thanks Tony!
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I think Tony is right about N2. I've always seen Saltella wirh red parts of legs or body, but according Ozerov's description Saltella may be completely black as well.
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Photo 2 is Saltella sphondylii (Schrank)
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