Diptera.info :: Family forums :: Asilidae Forum
Who is here? 1 guest(s)
 Asilidae (?) from Belgium
|
|
| Jeroen K |
Posted on 15-07-2010 15:32
|
|
Member Location: Kapellen, Belgium Posts: 1141 Joined: 03.04.09 |
My garden, Kapellen, Belgium. Not sure about Asilidae (I'm not really a dipterologist). Is genus or even species possible? More pictures and specimen available if needed. Thanks in advance.
Jeroen K attached the following image:  [120.06Kb] |
|
|
|
| Jeroen K |
Posted on 15-07-2010 15:32
|
|
Member Location: Kapellen, Belgium Posts: 1141 Joined: 03.04.09 |
Picture 2:
Jeroen K attached the following image:  [113.58Kb] |
|
|
|
| Jeroen K |
Posted on 15-07-2010 15:33
|
|
Member Location: Kapellen, Belgium Posts: 1141 Joined: 03.04.09 |
Picture 3:
Jeroen K attached the following image:  [82.15Kb] |
|
|
|
| Jeroen K |
Posted on 15-07-2010 15:34
|
|
Member Location: Kapellen, Belgium Posts: 1141 Joined: 03.04.09 |
Picture 4:
Jeroen K attached the following image:  [123.45Kb] |
|
|
|
| Sundew |
Posted on 15-07-2010 16:46
|
 Member Location: Berlin and Baden-Württemberg, Germany Posts: 3890 Joined: 28.07.07 |
Asilidae it is, but I am neither an expert. I can exclude some genera, however, but your fly is a female which makes identification difficult. Male genitalia are distinctive. The experts might recognize the genus, so let's wait for them. |
|
|
|
| Jeroen K |
Posted on 15-07-2010 19:33
|
|
Member Location: Kapellen, Belgium Posts: 1141 Joined: 03.04.09 |
Thanks for your reply. I looked through the Gallery once again. To me, it's Machimus, Eutolmus, Philonicus or Rhadiurgus, but I only paid attention to the general shape as I don't know the charachteristics for keying. But as you said, I will wait for the experts. One more picture (with a better view at the wing venation):
Jeroen K attached the following image:  [127Kb] Edited by Jeroen K on 15-07-2010 19:34 |
|
|
|
| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 15-07-2010 22:44
|
 Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2198 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Eutolmus rufibarbis for sure. Female
Edited by Quaedfliegh on 15-07-2010 22:45 Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
 |
|
| Jeroen K |
Posted on 15-07-2010 23:38
|
|
Member Location: Kapellen, Belgium Posts: 1141 Joined: 03.04.09 |
Thank you very much, Reinoud. How can you tell? |
|
|
|
| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 16-07-2010 08:55
|
|
Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2198 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Black legs with black bristles, pattern on thorax but most important in this case is the black genital part(ovipositor) at the end of the abdomen, shape very typical.
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
|
|
|
| Jeroen K |
Posted on 16-07-2010 15:29
|
|
Member Location: Kapellen, Belgium Posts: 1141 Joined: 03.04.09 |
Thanks for this interesting information. Hopefully I can identify the next one by myself. |
|
|
|
| Quaedfliegh |
Posted on 16-07-2010 17:28
|
|
Member Location: Tilburg Netherlands Posts: 2198 Joined: 18.05.10 |
Note: My knowledge is based on Dutch specimens and the Dutch key to the Asilidae of the Netherlands and surrounding areas incorporated in the book by Mark van Veen "De roofvliegen van NL". I'm pretty sure the key also applies to Belgium. The book is still available 2nd hand, try abebooks.com.
Greetings, Reinoud Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/ https://www.nev.nl/diptera/ |
|
|
|
| Jump to Forum: |
but don't see the image in the post.
