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Asilidae (?) from Belgium
Jeroen K
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My garden, Kapellen, Belgium. Not sure about Asilidae (I'm not really a dipterologist). Is genus or even species possible? More pictures and specimen available if needed. Thanks in advance.
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Asilidae it is, but I am neither an expert. I can exclude some genera, however, but your fly is a female which makes identification difficult. Male genitalia are distinctive. The experts might recognize the genus, so let's wait for them.
 
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Thanks for your reply. I looked through the Gallery once again. To me, it's Machimus, Eutolmus, Philonicus or Rhadiurgus, but I only paid attention to the general shape as I don't know the charachteristics for keying. But as you said, I will wait for the experts. One more picture (with a better view at the wing venation):
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Eutolmus rufibarbis for sure. Female
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Greetings,

Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

https://www.nev.nl/diptera/
 
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Thank you very much, Reinoud. How can you tell?
 
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Posted on 16-07-2010 09:55
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Black legs with black bristles, pattern on thorax but most important in this case is the black genital part(ovipositor) at the end of the abdomen, shape very typical.
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Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

https://www.nev.nl/diptera/
 
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Posted on 16-07-2010 16:29
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Thanks for this interesting information. Hopefully I can identify the next one by myself.
 
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Posted on 16-07-2010 18:28
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Note: My knowledge is based on Dutch specimens and the Dutch key to the Asilidae of the Netherlands and surrounding areas incorporated in the book by Mark van Veen "De roofvliegen van NL". I'm pretty sure the key also applies to Belgium. The book is still available 2nd hand, try abebooks.com.
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Reinoud

Field guide to the robber flies of the Netherlands and Belgium: https://www.jeugdbondsuitgeverij.nl/product/field-guide-to-the-robberflies-of-the-netherlands-and-belgium/

https://www.nev.nl/diptera/
 
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