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 Tachinidae ID
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 12-04-2010 23:08
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 Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
I need help in the identification of this tachinid. It was found in Porto, Portugal on the 4th of March 2010.
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 12-04-2010 23:08
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 13-04-2010 07:28
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 Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
Admontia sp. |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 13-04-2010 09:46
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 Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
It might be a trick of the light but does the median vein have a really long petiole? 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 13-04-2010 11:41
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
ChrisR wrote: It might be a trick of the light but does the median vein have a really long petiole? You're absolutely right! Face profile does not fit for Ramonda to me.. Noidea? Jaakko attached the following image:  [1.68Kb] |
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| ChrisR |
Posted on 13-04-2010 11:47
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Administrator Location: Reading, England Posts: 7699 Joined: 12.07.04 |
Definitely a Noidea sp. ... and quite literally as-yet unclassified - one for Theo I think  I feel it must be at least Wagneriini but I don't see many up here 
Manager of the UK Species Inventory in the Angela Marmont Centre for UK Biodiversity at the Natural History Museum, London. |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 13-04-2010 12:16
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 Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Noidea noidea Andrade, 2010 |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 13-04-2010 20:23
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Wagneria sp... ? |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 13-04-2010 20:24
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
With Chris's cue and following the key (if also a Central European species): Wagneria cf. cunctans? A southern species, flight time would fit! I've got alpina and costata, but somehow this did not ring any bell... |
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| jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 13-04-2010 22:25
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9296 Joined: 05.06.06 |
I have found a few moments ago a forgotten Wagneria sp. I saw in 2008. I have uploaded these photos to the gallery as well: http://www.dipter...d_id=11599 |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 14-04-2010 21:49
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Thank you for your effort! Do you need to see any detail? I can take some pictures if necessary. |
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 15-04-2010 16:06
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18539 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Definitily Wagneriini I'm not sure why Wagneria is preferred above Ramonda, to me, it might be both. Theo |
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| Jaakko |
Posted on 16-04-2010 13:35
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Member Location: Joensuu, Finland Posts: 479 Joined: 04.08.08 |
I think that the Ramonda I've seen have much narrower cheeks. That's why I went for Admontia, also the cheek bristles actually looked first to be cheeks hairs + bristles on the facial ridges! The fly under Jorge's link looks pretty similar? |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 16-04-2010 18:14
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
More photos
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 16-04-2010 18:15
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 16-04-2010 18:16
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 16-04-2010 18:17
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| Zeegers |
Posted on 18-04-2010 19:53
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The presence of a strong ve bristle would be a more convincing argument. In any case: Wagneria. Very difficult genus, I'm not gonna speculate on species. Theo |
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| Rui Andrade |
Posted on 19-04-2010 00:25
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 3122 Joined: 19.06.07 |
Thank you Theo! |
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but don't see the image in the post.