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 Larva, E-HU, 04.2010
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| pwalter |
Posted on 10-04-2010 15:28
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 Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi, this one was quite big, some 18 mms, between fallen leaves. What could it be?
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| pwalter |
Posted on 10-04-2010 15:34
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
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| atylotus |
Posted on 10-04-2010 17:09
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 Member Location: Amsterdam, NL Posts: 1120 Joined: 29.05.09 |
I think Anisopodidae, for the abdominal segments are subdivided into (I think) 2 segments, leaving a false impression that the abdomen has 16 segments instead of the normal 8. |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 10-04-2010 17:52
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
That is interesting  Do You think they will pupate soon? Or maybe only in Autumn?Regards, Walter Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist) |
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| atylotus |
Posted on 12-04-2010 09:46
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Member Location: Amsterdam, NL Posts: 1120 Joined: 29.05.09 |
Sorry, No idea when they will pupute, but it looks to me as if it's a third stage larva. |
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| Steve Gaimari |
Posted on 12-04-2010 18:50
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 Member Location: Sacramento, California, USA Posts: 169 Joined: 08.10.04 |
No - this is clearly a therevid - the metacephalic rod is spatulate, and this is clear in the photo. And it has the right secondary segmentation. Nice! |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 12-04-2010 20:35
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Thanks. I have two specimens. What do they eat?
Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist) |
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| Cranefly |
Posted on 13-04-2010 05:35
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Member Location: Shachovskaya Posts: 646 Joined: 17.09.08 |
This may be Therevidae. Body segments subdivided but its subsegments approximately equal to each other (not narrow ring and wider second part). Head is sclerotised dorsally only. Besides you can see dark metacephal rod (character typical for Orthorrhaphous larva) posteriorly from head capsule which is broaded (character typical for Therevidae). To make sure finally please look if it has 2 papillae posteriorly (Anisopodidae have 5-lobed posterior end with posterior spiracles like Limoniidae) and Therevidae have popsterior pair of spiracles on lateral sides of segment. If it is Therevidae then it is predator. It needs some damaged a little fresh larva to eat before pupation (or ant eggs or something like this). 
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| Cranefly |
Posted on 13-04-2010 06:03
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Member Location: Shachovskaya Posts: 646 Joined: 17.09.08 |
P.S. Put them in separate tubes. they may eat each other. |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 13-04-2010 09:06
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
O-oh...
Walter Pfliegler - Amateur Nature Photographer from Hungary (and molecular biologist) |
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| pwalter |
Posted on 13-04-2010 09:39
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
Hi, meanwhile one of the larvae produced black spots on thorax:
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| pwalter |
Posted on 13-04-2010 09:41
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
And I photographed the spiracles:
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| pwalter |
Posted on 13-04-2010 09:41
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Member Location: Miskolc, Hungary Posts: 3555 Joined: 06.11.08 |
And, finally, the other larva is already a ~7 mm long pupa!
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but don't see the image in the post.