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brian reily
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weve been trying to figure this one out since 1975!!!!
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any info on what this is would be geratly appreciated
 
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A larger picture would be geratly appreciatedWink

Where was this critter collected?
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Argh. I've seen a fly like this somewhere, but I cannot recall where. Aaargh! I'll be back in a minute.
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Hmm. It does actually look a bit like the extinct basal cyclorrhaphan ChimeromyiaShock, but the wing venation does not match. Could we get a closer look of the venation?
Edited by Kahis on 08-08-2006 22:01
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I( am definitely not claiming it is near Chimeromyia, but to confuse myself further I'll link to the original paper [PDF, 4 megs!] describing this genus.

Edit: perhaps I should stop serial posting after midnight. Grin
Edited by Kahis on 08-08-2006 22:17
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A clearer picture would be great. In the meantime, my guess is Chyliza (Psilidae).
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What about size, location, habitat, etc.?
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Blacksburg Va.
9 mm.
1975
... thats all we know
 
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Kahis wrote:
Hmm. It does actually look a bit like the extinct basal cyclorrhaphan ChimeromyiaShock, but the wing venation does not match. Could we get a closer look of the venation?



im working on this as well as a dorsal view
 
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Va. That is Virginia, right, rather south in the USA?
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Virginia - tabaco capital, approx as south as Turkey.
Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University
 
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I was more wondering about the proximity of Florida (Caraibean influences) and Mexico (Neotropical influences).
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My other suggestion would be Strongylophthalmyia, but I'm not sure it gets that far south. (Also wrong size.)
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For comparison here's my simple page on the European species: http://www.elisan...a/strongy/
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Thanks, Kahis - excellent page.
So not Strongylophthalmyia.
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Kahis wrote:
For comparison here's my simple page on the European species: http://www.elisan...a/strongy/




that is exactly whay it looks like!!!!
 
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AFAIK only one Strongylophthalmyid is known from North America: Strongylophthalmyia angustipennis Melander 1920. The Manual of Nearctic Diptera gives its distribution as 'southern Canada and northern US'. The illustration differ from Your fly by the color of legs (yellow) and shape of apical spot. Important? Perhaps.
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Brian wrote: that is exactly whay it looks like!!!!


There are similarities, which is why I made the suggestion, but your specimen is 9mm, while Strongylophthalmyia are only up to 4mm. Also the wings on your specimen are comparatively short.
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ok this is getting weird
 
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