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 Chamaemyiidae from East Turkey
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| Cesa |
Posted on 12-03-2010 09:52
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 Member Location: Turkey Posts: 1276 Joined: 13.10.09 |
Hello, Today we obtained this fly from a cynipid (wasp) gall from Van. It is about 2mm length. Its ID will be very much appreciated. Muhabbet Cesa attached the following image:  [86.62Kb] Edited by Cesa on 12-03-2010 10:59 |
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| Cesa |
Posted on 12-03-2010 09:52
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Member Location: Turkey Posts: 1276 Joined: 13.10.09 |
Cesa wrote:
Hello, Today we obtained this fly from a cynipid (wasp) gall from Van. It is about 2mm length. Its ID will be very much appreciated. Muhabbet Cesa attached the following image:  [125.89Kb] |
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 12-03-2010 10:53
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 Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19244 Joined: 11.05.04 |
Leucopis sp., so yes, Chamaemyiidae. Usually only males can be identified reliably, on the basis of their genitalia.
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| Cesa |
Posted on 12-03-2010 10:58
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Member Location: Turkey Posts: 1276 Joined: 13.10.09 |
many thanks Paul Muhabbet |
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| Steve Gaimari |
Posted on 12-03-2010 21:50
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 Member Location: Sacramento, California, USA Posts: 169 Joined: 08.10.04 |
Paul Beuk wrote: Leucopis sp., so yes, Chamaemyiidae. Usually only males can be identified reliably, on the basis of their genitalia. Paul is right - Leucopis. But it's emergence from a cynipid gall would only be right if there were aphids in the gall - none are known from anything except for sternorrhynchans. So this is definitely not a predator of the gall wasps. |
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| Cesa |
Posted on 12-03-2010 22:13
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Member Location: Turkey Posts: 1276 Joined: 13.10.09 |
During a survey on the cynipid galls of S.E.Turkey, we obtained on 28 Febr. 2010, during winter, a gall Aphelonyx persica Melika,2004 from a dried oak stem. We obtained from other cynipid galls of oaks, numerous cynipids or parazitoids (chalcidids, braconids, ichneumoids). But this time -today- we obtained this Leucopis species. We are aware of the relationship with aphids. But at the present time, the aphids never developed due to the cold of winter. The gall mentioned above with the short oak stem was well protected singly and separated in a plastic box. Reason of the appearance of Leucopis may be hidden in the bionomy of the species in the last autumn. Thank you Steve, for your kind attention to our short information on the gall and Leucopis. Muhabbet & Ahmet |
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but don't see the image in the post.
