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jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 07-08-2006 17:03
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
taken on 7th august 2006 in Silgueiros - VISEU above Cicuta sp. What is this? Genus... and specie. Thank you. to see it larger: http://www.flickr...212&size=o Edited by jorgemotalmeida on 07-08-2006 17:38 |
digitalg |
Posted on 07-08-2006 17:22
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 51 Joined: 31.07.06 |
I'm risking my first hint on another's photo around here ... and please, don't believe me until further notice, and wait for the specialists But I've seen lot's of flies like this where I am now and I've been calling them tachinids. I think this one might be a male. The wings had some white on it? Armando Frazão http://bugs.digit... |
Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 07-08-2006 17:36
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9350 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I'm agree with Armando. It was because I advised "to change category and wait for Theo and Chris" which is equal to "unknown for me Tachinidae". Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 07-08-2006 17:38
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Nikita Vikhrev wrote: I'm agree with Armando. It was because I advised "to change category and wait for Theo and Chris" which is equal to "unknown for me Tachinidae". Nikita Is this tachinid?? I understand what you say, but it seems different and not usual like aother tachinids. |
Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 07-08-2006 17:57
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Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9350 Joined: 24.05.05 |
I'm very much affraid to write something about Tachinidae, because after Theo's appearence with correct ID I always feel myself idiot. Ok, once again. I think it is Tachinidae from subfamily Phasiinae, one of which you can always see at upper right corner of main page of this site. Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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jorgemotalmeida |
Posted on 07-08-2006 18:42
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Member Location: Viseu - PORTUGAL Posts: 9295 Joined: 05.06.06 |
Nikita Vikhrev wrote: I'm very much affraid to write something about Tachinidae, because after Theo's appearence with correct ID I always feel myself idiot. Ok, once again. I think it is Tachinidae from subfamily Phasiinae, one of which you can always see at upper right corner of main page of this site. Nikita You are not alone. But it is preferable to try identify and to make a mistake, THAN not to say nothing and do not to make a mistake? with error we learned. |
Zeegers |
Posted on 07-08-2006 20:32
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18822 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Don't (feel idiot) Nikita is right, it is in Phasiinae. Pity we can't see the wings, but there seems to be a central cloud. In which case my guess would be a female of Ectophasia (either crassipennis or oblonga, no way to tell for me from this picture) Theo |
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conopid |
Posted on 07-08-2006 20:33
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Member Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1039 Joined: 02.07.04 |
I'd say Phasia - looks very similar to Phasia obesa which we get here in UK.
Nigel Jones, Shrewsbury, United Kingdom |
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digitalg |
Posted on 07-08-2006 21:08
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Member Location: Portugal Posts: 51 Joined: 31.07.06 |
Gee, I wrote Ectophasia and then I deleted it not to make an idiot of me (where did I see that written? ). I've seen several flies here in Portugal (not that far from Viseu) that I think are also Ectophasia sp. But I've seen them with much bigger abdomens, really much bigger. That is the main reason I thought this one was male. Edited by digitalg on 07-08-2006 21:10 Armando Frazão http://bugs.digit... |
Zeegers |
Posted on 08-08-2006 20:25
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Member Location: Soest, NL Posts: 18822 Joined: 21.07.04 |
Given the wing pattern (have a closer look: strongly yellow at base, followed by the black spot) and the abdominal pattern (distinct lateral yellow spots on tergites), I persist in my previous call, though I quite agree that it is difficult to see and Phasia obesa male are similar. Theo |
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