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Scathopahgidae Nanna sp.?
blowave	#1 Posted on 07-01-2010 19:28
Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07	Taken on 9th August 2009, on my neighbour's marqee near Lincoln UK. One pic only but I have cropped off the head so posting two. Janet blowave attached the following image: [182.58Kb] Edited by blowave on 09-01-2010 00:54


blowave	#2 Posted on 07-01-2010 19:28
Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07	crop blowave attached the following image: [126.37Kb]


Paul Beuk	#3 Posted on 08-01-2010 08:38
Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19250 Joined: 11.05.04	Scathopahgidae. Nanna perhaps? Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info


blowave	#4 Posted on 09-01-2010 00:54
Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07	If it is Nanna, we have 7 species listed. N. armillata, brevifrons, fasciata, multisetosa, tibiella, flavipes and inermis. The last two are in the Gallery and I don't think look like mine although the legs on N. flavipes look to match. I'll change the title and hope someone can give it a name.


Cranefly	#5 Posted on 09-01-2010 09:21
Member Location: Shachovskaya Posts: 646 Joined: 17.09.08	Try to check the key. Nanna has 2 setae on scutellum, and this fly has 4.


Paul Beuk	#6 Posted on 09-01-2010 09:36
Super Administrator Location: Netherlands Posts: 19250 Joined: 11.05.04	It was just a suggestion. I did not have a key at hand, so... Paul - - - - Paul Beuk on https://diptera.info


Stephane Lebrun	#7 Posted on 09-01-2010 09:46
Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07	I think it is Trichopalpus (=Chaetosa) punctipes, but I can't be sure without a lateral view. Stephane.


blowave	#8 Posted on 09-01-2010 23:10
Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07	Stephane Lebrun wrote: I think it is Trichopalpus (=Chaetosa) punctipes, but I can't be sure without a lateral view. Thank you Stephane, if you are sure it is a Chaetosa sp. then we only the ones species listed for the UK, C. punctipes. I checked Trichopalpus, we only have one species of that which is Trichopalpus fraternus Both have a synonym or previous genus of Cordylura. This might all be outdated, so where does that leave us?


Stephane Lebrun	#9 Posted on 10-01-2010 12:27
Member Location: Le Havre, France Posts: 8248 Joined: 03.03.07	Chaetosa punctipes is a synonym of Trichopalpus punctipes, and I am not sure of the genus. Stephane.


blowave	#10 Posted on 10-01-2010 16:06
Member Location: LINCOLN, UK Posts: 3151 Joined: 27.06.07	I have checked on ITIS, as well as Biolib, there appears to be only one species of Chaetosa, which is C. punctipes. http://www.itis.g...lue=148406 GBIF shows it in my area, http://data.gbif....s/16084659 The NBN shows it either side of me but it's never up to date or is under-recorded. http://data.nbn.o...0000030398 The synonym there is also Cordylura punctipes The only reference I found for Trichopalpus punctipes was on a Norwegian document, neither ITIS or Species 2000 recognises it. BUT there is a fly named Trichopalpus punctipes in the Gallery, and I have found the source of the name on a google, from an old thread here! It is from Gorodkov's key in Insecta of European part of USSR, 1970, vol.5, part2. http://www.dipter...;pid=11682 http://www.dipter...to_id=2127 Does the current taxonomic information make this name incorrect?