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Chorisops´ doubt
paqui
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Posted on 29-12-2009 01:06
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Hello, I´m looking at this genera now and a few doubts come to me,

- I copy the list fron Fauna Europaea:
Chorisops caroli Troiano 1995
Chorisops masoni Troiano & Toscano 1995
Chorisops nagatomii Rozkosny 1979
Chorisops tibialis (Meigen 1820)
Chorisops tunisiae (Becker 1915)


In Spain there are two recorded: C. tibialis and C. tunisiae, but I haven´t found any description of C. tunisiae:

- In "Lindner" there´s only C. tibialis, and C. tunisiae appears as a synonym (outdated, I suppose).

- "The manual of Palaearctic Diptera" separates Allognosta from Beris, Actina and Chorisops because Allognosta has no spinelike processes (scutellum) but the other 3 genera have 48!!, I´ve never seen all those spines, where are they? I link to a photo from the gallery:
http://www.dipter...to_id=3275 perhaps not visible with this angle (?)

- "Faune de France" has only C. tibialis and doesn´t tell a number of spines

Looking for more Chorisops pictures I´ve seen this one, from Portugal: http://commons.wi...2008-1.jpg The Portugese records (until 2002) were C. nagatomi and C. tunisiae ,
- "British soldier flies... " covers C. tibialis and C. nagatomi (orange abdomen) so perhaps the one from this picture is C. tunisiae ? This book says Chorisops has 4 spines (or 6 in aberrant specimens), so perhaps "spinelike processes" are smaller or thinner than normal spines (?)

Any help with any of these questions is welcome (where/how are the spines and/or any reference (article) with description of C. tunisiae).

Thank you all very much for your atention
And happy new year Smile
 
blowave
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Posted on 29-12-2009 03:15
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Hello paqui,

I was interested to find these spines myself as I took pics of both male and female C. tibialis this year. I can see some faint, pale spines on the thorax of the male and it appears the female has some too but they don't show very well at some angles.

I was going to post my pics, but I searched the site and found some which show the spines well. I guess these are the 48 you have read about.

http://diptera.in...post_42064

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Paul Beuk
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Posted on 29-12-2009 10:58
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I guess 48 should read as 4-8...
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Posted on 29-12-2009 21:19
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Thank you very much Smile
 
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