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 ID help please.2 Dragonflies
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| fleabag |
Posted on 26-07-2006 23:07
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 Member Location: Sussex UK Posts: 183 Joined: 13.07.06 |
Hi, Please could someone help me with these.West Sussex UK. Sorry about the second one,a sad pic,hit by a car maybe. Many thanks. fleabag attached the following image:  [39.22Kb] |
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| fleabag |
Posted on 26-07-2006 23:10
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Member Location: Sussex UK Posts: 183 Joined: 13.07.06 |
second one,poor little fella
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| Paul Beuk |
Posted on 27-07-2006 07:40
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I think the top one is Aeshna mixta, the bottom one Aeshna cyanea, both males.
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 27-07-2006 07:54
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I'm not sure, but I think that first one is A. cyanea too, freshly born.
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 27-07-2006 08:03
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 Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1799 Joined: 14.01.06 |
I think the top one is A mixta, but female - seems to have female genitalia, long anal appendages, brown costa. I think the bottom one is a male A juncea - the antehumeral stripes don't seem big enough for A cyanea and it looks like the costa is yellow.
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| fleabag |
Posted on 27-07-2006 12:11
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Member Location: Sussex UK Posts: 183 Joined: 13.07.06 |
Thankyou for the helpful replies. I had a look through some old disks and found a better shot of the second one,another rather grim picture im afraid. 
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 27-07-2006 12:59
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1799 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Well, with this image it is clear that they are different species - three and bit stripes on the side of thorax on the deceased, whilst the top one has only two. I think what you might have here is the Hairy Dragonfly Brachytron pratense - it did cross my mind earlier, but the yellowy costa sidetracked me. The antehumerals are a better fit for this species too, as although they are too narrow for A cyanea, they are too wide really for A juncea. How exciting!  (Uncommon, but increasing its range in the UK.)
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 27-07-2006 13:17
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7193 Joined: 19.11.04 |
The first is a female Aeshna mixta. The dead one is Brachytron pratense male. Edit : [Susan - great that we agree - I must try not to get distracted when composing a comment - makes me look as though I don't read the posts!  ]
Edited by Tony Irwin on 27-07-2006 13:22 Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Susan R Walter |
Posted on 28-07-2006 12:42
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Member Location: Touraine du Sud, central France Posts: 1799 Joined: 14.01.06 |
Tony I'm pleased to have my ID confirmed. I live in that strange gap in B pratense's distribution along the Thames, so am not actually familiar with the beast in the field.Susan |
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