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| Xespok |
Posted on 18-07-2006 10:51
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 Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Onesia sp?
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| Xespok |
Posted on 18-07-2006 10:52
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Bellardia sp?
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| Xespok |
Posted on 18-07-2006 10:53
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Calliphora sp?
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| Nikita Vikhrev |
Posted on 18-07-2006 11:18
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 Member Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 9297 Joined: 24.05.05 |
Hi Xespok. I think it is Bellardia, Nikita Nikita Vikhrev - Zool Museum of Moscow University |
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| Robert Nash |
Posted on 18-07-2006 11:26
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Member Location: Ulster Museum, Belfast, Ireland Posts: 288 Joined: 11.11.05 |
I think Bellardia too and I just added this site to the Wikipedia page after chancing on it http://popgen.unimaas.nl/~jlindsey/commanster/Insects/Flies/Calliphoridae.html It's well worth a look  Note the next page has wing pictures.Robert |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 18-07-2006 12:37
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Do you mean all there are within Bellardia? The three images show three different individuals with three different locations. The first two could well be the male and the female of the same species, but I am a little sceptical with the third fly (another female0, which clearly had a bluish, rather than a greenish hue. Also was much larger and fatter, than the first one. |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 18-07-2006 12:42
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Robert Nash wrote: I think Bellardia too and I just added this site to the Wikipedia page after chancing on it http://popgen.unimaas.nl/~jlindsey/commanster/Insects/Flies/Calliphoridae.html It's well worth a look Note the next page has wing pictures.RobertHi Robert, The first fly in that web page seems to be a Muscid or an anthomyiid fly to me, rather than Bellardia viarum. Also the wing venation suggests Anthomyiidae or Muscidae to me. Where am I going wrong? Edited by Xespok on 18-07-2006 12:43 |
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| Robert Nash |
Posted on 18-07-2006 14:59
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Member Location: Ulster Museum, Belfast, Ireland Posts: 288 Joined: 11.11.05 |
Hi Xespok You aren't going wrong . I did  . The author of this page incorrectly identified his first fly (as you say muscid/anthomyiid) as Phaonia viarum then compounded the error when he transferred this species name to Bellardia. I made matters worse by recommending the page (worth it only for it's other pictures). I will write to him about this. Meantime I will retire in disgrace coming back to take a proper look at the three pics you so carefully took.After the holiday I obviously need. Robert |
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| Tony Irwin |
Posted on 19-07-2006 01:37
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 Member Location: Norwich, England Posts: 7219 Joined: 19.11.04 |
Hi Xespok The third fly is Calliphora vicina female. I think the second fly is a male Onesia. It appears to have 3 post-sutural intra-alars. Bellardia would normally have 1 pre- and 2 post-sutural ia. The first fly looks like a female Onesia. Can't help with the species, though.
Tony ---------- Tony Irwin |
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| Xespok |
Posted on 20-07-2006 08:17
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Member Location: Debrecen, Hungary Posts: 5550 Joined: 02.03.05 |
Tony, thx for your help here and in other threads. |
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