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Calliphoridae, Hungary
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Posted on 18-07-2006 09:51
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Onesia sp?
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Bellardia sp?
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Calliphora sp?
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Hi Xespok.
I think it is Bellardia,
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I think Bellardia too and I just added this site to the Wikipedia page after chancing on it http://popgen.unimaas.nl/~jlindsey/commanster/Insects/Flies/Calliphoridae.html
It's well worth a look Pfft Note the next page has wing pictures.Robert
 
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Do you mean all there are within Bellardia? The three images show three different individuals with three different locations.

The first two could well be the male and the female of the same species, but I am a little sceptical with the third fly (another female0, which clearly had a bluish, rather than a greenish hue. Also was much larger and fatter, than the first one.
 
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Robert Nash wrote:
I think Bellardia too and I just added this site to the Wikipedia page after chancing on it http://popgen.unimaas.nl/~jlindsey/commanster/Insects/Flies/Calliphoridae.html
It's well worth a look Pfft Note the next page has wing pictures.Robert


Hi Robert,

The first fly in that web page seems to be a Muscid or an anthomyiid fly to me, rather than Bellardia viarum. Also the wing venation suggests Anthomyiidae or Muscidae to me. Where am I going wrong?
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Hi Xespok You aren't going wrong . I did Sad. The author of this page incorrectly identified his first fly (as you say muscid/anthomyiid) as Phaonia viarum then compounded the error when he transferred this species name to Bellardia. I made matters worse by recommending the page (worth it only for it's other pictures). I will write to him about this. Meantime I will retire in disgrace coming back to take a proper look at the three pics you so carefully took.After the holiday I obviously need. Robert

 
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Hi Xespok
The third fly is Calliphora vicina female.
I think the second fly is a male Onesia. It appears to have 3 post-sutural intra-alars. Bellardia would normally have 1 pre- and 2 post-sutural ia.
The first fly looks like a female Onesia. Can't help with the species, though. Sad
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Tony, thx for your help here and in other threads.
 
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